Amazing condition Hobo Nickle found in the ocean and a gold ring

[plymouthian12]

Got the dual field back from repair yesterday. was working a beach out in chest deep water decided only to dig the faint sounds due to so much aluminium just under the surface.got my 83rd Gold ring for the year and a hobo nickel dated 1929 have seen pictures of these nickles and always hoped I would find one. What I have noticed is that you never see any posted on here, unlike GW buttons, Gold coins ect. So am I right that they are hard to find? Looking foward to everyone's input. Thanks

 

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[against the wind]

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[stefen]

Thought I'd jump in and add to the discussion.

I've had a Hobo collection for maybe 40 years with somewhere around 350 to 500 coins. Occasionally, I find coins I had rat-holed in my desk or file cabinet, so the count is ever-changing.

Most are Buf/IH nickels with some being dimes, quarters and halves.

Love Tokens also fall in to this same category and are equally collectable.

Its not unusual for the maker to make several, if not hundreds of the same image.

The coin being discussed, in my opinion, is hand made, and may have been made from the coins date up to recent times.

Some coins are initialed by the artist, which is a more recent practice.

Today, coins are being made by hand tooling, by using lasers, and other electric tools.

I'd say that the coin being discussed would be valued around $10 to $20.

Check Ebay for prices and named artists.

There are few vintage originals around so be aware of scams...Let the buyer beware...

 

[plymouthian12]

Thanks Stefen but I would still have to agree with the gentleman from hobo nickel society that it appears to be an original

 

[stefen]

Thanks Stefen but I would still have to agree with the gentleman from hobo nickel society that it appears to be an original

What's nice about TN Forums, is that we can disagree...

And if that is an original, I have his two brothers in my collection...

If you look on Ebay and other sites, you will find that same coin or others that are similar, if not identical...

 

[plymouthian12]

Thanks Stefen I'd like to see them

 

[Erik in NJ]

I too would like to see other nickels by this artist especially since he is yet to be nicknamed. Thanks.

 

[Argentium]

stefen , It would be very helpful and informative if you would put up pictures of the "two brothers " in your collection .
As you know- the smallest details in the bowler ribbon , the beard , the collar , the hair etc. are quite significant in
possibly attributing them to a known artist , or at worst cataloging and attributing multiple Hobo Nickels to one artist
even if the identity cannot be ascertained .

 

[Meucci]

I love that Hobo nickel, I have though they were amazing. Very nice finds!

 

[stefen]

Sure looks vintage to me--take a look at the known carvers link I posted! Plymouthian, please keep us posted on what you hear from the Society.

Agreed it looks vintage, however it's not possible to determine when it was actually produced unless there is a provenance.

Any coin aeprtist can take a buf coin and duplicate this coin...and it's not possible to determine if it was made around the time the coin was minted or just yesterday.

Since most respondents to this subject are not familiar with Love Tokens or Hobo's, there is certain details that will point to the approximate age of the coin art.

For example this coin shows a darkened beard. This means that the coin is recent vintage...the use of bluing and metal staining is a recent art form.

The person From the Historic site is not capable of determing it's age or if in fact it's an original...unless he can provide a artist name or initials.

Again, visit "Hobo Coins" on eBay and do the research, and revisit it on a frequent basis, and you will find repeat or duplicates, or similar copies. keep track of the sellers and the coins sold.

Any time a seller states the coin being sold for some outrageous price is an original...you will not find any provenance.

it's a sellers scam.

In the last several weeks there has been several listings around $300+, yet no real provenance.

 

[stefen]

just inserted a search routine for "derby hobo eBay" and up popped four (4) images of bearded Hobo's wearing a derby...

Look further and you will find an exact copy of the subject coin.

 

[plymouthian12]

The darkened beard is from the black sand that our beaches are known for if you look at the top of the derby you will see it black there also most of the buffs we find here have the back in the small lower areas so I don't think it's a newer one

 

[plymouthian12]

Casper also hunts this area and can testify to thst

 

[stefen]

The darkened beard is from the black sand that our beaches are known for if you look at the top of the derby you will see it black there also most of the buffs we find here have the back in the small lower areas so I don't think it's a newer one

You're grasping at straws...do you're research.

I've given you the sources.

 

[Erik in NJ]

You're grasping at straws...do you're research.

I've given you the sources.

Stefen, It might be helpful if you simply post a link to the auction coins that you feel are identical as well as posting some pics of the two coins you claim to have that are identical to the OP's coin, no?

 

[plymouthian12]

I just know how coins come out of this beach area and don't believe that this one was dyed, I'm still going with what the the guy from hns said I don't know how you by not having the coin can say it was dyed

 

[Argentium]

Stefen , In fairness you really can't say that the O.P. is "grasping at straws" because he makes a credible case for what he believes ,
and for you to suggest that any darkening in the recessed areas of the coin is attributable to bluing/ dying as opposed to natural
patina is in my estimation really a reach. I do hope you will post the aforementioned pictures from your collection .

 

[Brother Al]

Hello Kent! Sorry for the slow reply to your original email. This does appear to be an original hobo nickel, but it has not yet been catalogued and nicknamed, so it as of yet unnamed. Nice coin with a super cool story!

Chris Dempsey
Original Hobo Nickel Society
www.hobocollector.com

That opinion is all I've been waiting for
..Banner vote has been cast!

 

[RJ55]

Might as well put my 5 cents in. I don't think it's an Indian on the obverse, because it looks more like he has an afro !

 

[stefen]

Stefen, It might be helpful if you simply post a link to the auction coins that you feel are identical as well as posting some pics of the two coins you claim to have that are identical to the OP's coin, no?

Read my previous posts #90 and you will find the link. Copy of exact coin....

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...=yhs-mozilla-001&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

 

[Argentium]

stefen , Thank's for the link ! I looked at every one of those images - not one of them is "an exact copy " (your words) not even close !
I would still like to see the two that you have in your collection .