✅ SOLVED Ancient Egyptian artifacts to identify- 664BC to 525BC likely.

[Jak_Atlas]

I collected these two artifacts while I was traveling and I'm struggling with identifying them. I believe they are both egyptian in origin from their design (namely the bird shapes being reminiscent of something you'd find close to the edge of the Nile. Both are made from an alloy of bronze and copper, one a small hand sized figurine of a camel sitting down and the other I think is a nut cracker. A friend of mine speculated a torture device but I don't the Egyptians had a habit of putting such pretty bird designs on an instrument of suffering (but I wouldn't completely rule it out. The figurine is 15cm long and 3cm wide. The "nutcracker" is approximately 20cm long and 14cm wide. Any help you can give would be appreciated and I find things like this a lot so any body that can give me a good estimate I would love to have the help of in the future. Considering the alloy, the method used is probably one using honeycomb for molding, covered in clay to be heated so that the honey comb melts and then it is replaced by the melted alloy to cool, the clay is then broken away. This method is from around the 26th dynasty in Egypt between 664BC and 525BC before the invasion of the Persians in Egypt. Any more details or anot alternate explanation would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Atlas

 

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[Rustynailsandscrews]

I'm no expert but they look like India/Pakistan knock offs to me.

 

[Jak_Atlas]

Possibly but I'd like to do know either way, can you tell me what makes you think it's a knock off so I know in future?

 

[Reed Lukens]

Looks like the camel tail separates from the body. Need pics of both sides of the one item and then the bottom of the camel

 

[DCMatt]

Item 2 is a betel nut cutter. This one pictured is from the 1930's.

 

[DCMatt]

Here is one like yours on ebay. Listed as 19th Century.

 

[Jak_Atlas]

That's perfect, can you send me a link to it so I can find out more please?

 

[Jak_Atlas]

Good point, you got it.

 

[DCMatt]

That's perfect, can you send me a link to it so I can find out more please?

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[DCMatt]

The camel item, as you discovered, is a lock and key.

 

[Jak_Atlas]

A lock and key, I can see what you mean but the pieces all together can only be used to make the camels tongue to poke in and out. I always thoight it would probably be something like a children's toy, not exactly an ancient looking happy meal toy but not far off from it.

 

[Icewing]

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[DCMatt]

It's hard to say without having the items in hand but I would guess these pieces are no older than Victorian era. Those Victorians were crazy for anything Egyptian.

DCMatt

 

[Jak_Atlas]

Looks spot on, that's brilliant. Thanks for your help everyone. That was solved really quickly thanks to you.

 

[NHBandit]

I'm no expert but they look like India/Pakistan knock offs to me.

This was my first reaction as well. To me the "patina" looks faked