Another Photograph, what are these uniforms?

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Well, it's hot weather so it's not likely a Christmas or Easter pageant. Passion play might work. If it's taken from the Masonic Temple perhaps
it's a Crusades type theme. I agree that the figure near the front of the parade looks possibly a centurion but the other helmets seem to have
spikes on them. Some of the Bedouin costumes look a bit king worthy. Perhaps a passion play put on by the Mason's or Knights Templar.
 

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relevantchair you're talking about the flag on the back of the float and not the one borne by the man in the street?
 

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I like the Opera House aspect because the costuming looks too uniform to be a hodgepodge production!
 

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some of the img dates seem off and the OP img would have to
be between 1900- 1908 if dates are correct
and the july 4 1911 cant be right if the 1909 is correct

1900 Emanuel Wilhelm completes 3 story building on Front and Union,
later the Traverse Hotel
https://traversehistory.wordpress.com/history/timeline/

Hannah Lay Mercantile Block, building remodel, 1909
https://localhistory.tadl.org/items/show/14639

july 4 1911 with a june and july month noted
https://localhistory.tadl.org/items/show/23473
Hannah Lay 1910
https://localhistory.tadl.org/items/show/17956


seems there has always been an open space next
to Hannah Lay per sanborn maps
1899
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4114tm.g042171899/?sp=2&r=0.334,0.164,0.405,0.159,0
1910
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4114tm.g042171910/?sp=25&r=0.555,0.143,0.486,0.191,0

7 maps
https://www.loc.gov/maps/?c=100&fa=location:michigan|location:traverse+city&st=list
 

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20190705_201139.jpg 20190705_201139.jpg 20190705_201139.jpg This photo was with the previous one. Many of you had some thoughts on the flags. This one shows one of flags fairly clearly.
 

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Oops, sorry about the three pictures. Here is a better look at the flag. 20190705_201057.jpg
 

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Oh, that's a nice time-line, Anduril. That helps.
Inix, small point, but that looks like a band leading a row of carriages to start the parade ?

tldr: This group came to town. June 22, 1909.
The Maccabees were huge in Michigan. Traverse City had sent their large contingents including marching teams, marching band, floats, sports teams, etc. to other towns, each year. 1909 was Traverse City's year. How did Maccabees dress for marching in parades ?


A little info from those newspaper sites where we get hit by a paywall,
It's broken up, but a lot can be understood :

Traverse City Record Eagle
June 22, 1909


... assures the largest crowd that Traverse City has ever witnessed.
Today was given up to reception of great camp and great hive officers...

Tomorrow the trains on the railroads will be met by the local reception committee with bands of music. The big pan fu will be held at 11 o'clock tomorrow and will rest on Union street, the line of march having been published in the Record yesterday.

The parade will be led by a band assigned to that duty followed by great officers in carriages and city officers in carriages. Tents ? from the G. R. && I. and Pere Marquette trains 'will form on State street west of Union while the Traverse City tents will form on State east of Union.

Tents arriving on the M. && N. E. will form on Union street north of Front. Floats for the hives ?will rest on West Front street and drop in line to the tents of which they are auxiliary.

The rest of the program for tomorrow is: 8:00 A. M. to 1:30 P. M.—Reception to visiting Tents and Hives on arrival of trains. 10:00 A. M — Ball game at Driving park ball grounds.
11:00 A M.—Grand street parade.
2:00 P. M.—Address of welcome by John A. Loranger. Response by Great Commander George S. Lovelace, either at opera house or Union school park. 2:30 P. M.—Contested ball game at driving park ball grounds. $2 to winning team.
3:00 P. M.—Exemplification of memorial work by Traverse Bay Hive No. 71, followed by guard drill by Traverse Bay Hive No. 1 and Traverse City Hive No. 532.
3:00 P. M.— Street Games. 100-yard dash, first prize $3.00; second prize $2.00* & & & 200 & & & yard dash, first prize $3.00; second prize, $2.00 Wheelbarrow race, first prize $3.00; second prize $2.00. Three-legged race, tirfct prize $3.00; seccond prize $2.00. Sack race, first prize $2.00; second prize $1.00.
3:30 P. M.—Tug of war, seven men on a side, $5.00. Tug of war, seven ladies on a side, $5.00. Not less than than three contestants for any of above prizes. ores
4:00 P. M.—Band concert, at corner of Cass and Front streets or school park. First prize $50 00, second prize $40.00, third prize $30.00, fourth prize $20.00. Not less than five contestants for band prizes. 5:00 P. M.—Business meeting of the Association at City opera hall. Election of officers, selecting next meeting place and such other business as shall come before the meting. 7:00 P. M.— Band concerts by visiting bands. 7 00 P. M.—Ladies* degree team drill contest at opera ball, first prize $40.00; second prize $25.00. 8:00 P. M.—Band concert by prize winning bands.

8:30 P. M.— Maccabee degree team contest, old ritualistic work, at Opera Hall: first prize $40.00, second prize $25.00. $10.00 Prize for greatest number of members from any one Tent marching in line of parade. $10.00 for greatest number of members from any one Hive marching in line of parade. $10.00 prize for best uniformed degree team marching in line of parade. $10.oo prize for best military drilled degree team taking taking pan and marching in line of parade. $10.00 prize will be awarded for the best dressed in uniform, ladies degree team taking part in the parade. $10.00 prize for best drilled ladies’ degree team in line of parade. $5.00 prize to the Tent or Hive, members of this association, admitting the greatest number of Endowment members from May 1st to June 15th.


The question is, How did Maccabee "Tents" and "Hives" dress for their parades ?
Following the long day, the whole shin-dig ended up back at the Opera House for evening festivities and prizes.
The flag on the float is interesting, but so is the Arab ? sign on the building to the right.

It looks like both Arab ? and Roman ? are seen in this parade.
When you google Maccabee, you see a surprising abundance of Arab ? and Roman ?.

I don't know if this is all circumstance, or if it might explain the way they are dressed?


Maccabee.jpg
 

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Trying to understand what a "Maccabee Tent" might entail, I stumbled across this picture of a Degree Team from Detroit.

Maccabees.jpg

Edit: Merriam Webster

Definition of degree team

: a group of members of a ritualistic order who conduct the ceremonies and ritual connected with the working of an initiatory or other particular degree
 

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The Maccabees were huge in Michigan. Traverse City had sent their large contingents including marching teams, marching band, floats, sports teams, etc. to other towns, each year. 1909 was Traverse City's year. How did Maccabees dress for marching in parades ? How did Maccabee "Tents" and "Hives" dress for their parades ?

It looks like both Arab ? and Roman ? are seen in this parade.
When you google Maccabee, you see a surprising abundance of Arab ? and Roman ?.

I don't know if this is all circumstance, or if it might explain the way they are dressed?

This seals the deal for me. The costumed marchers must be Maccabees.

maccabees degree team.jpg
 

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I think you nailed in plug n play. Thanks to everyone for there efforts and all of your knowledge is appreciated!
 

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