Bilge pumps, are any worthwhile or alternatives?

[crumbaker]

I got an rdh mini highbanker. It's ok but could use a stronger pump. This is the second bilge pump I've used and it is finicky like the last one. They work on and off and when they stop working it's for no apparent reason. Anyway is there anything not gas powered that works better or a good brand to go with? I would just go with gas but I'm trying to move to the California motherload and figure I need something recirculating to stay legal.

 

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If you want a pump that works and will last, get a Jabsco Water Puppy. The 12 volt model is Jabsco Part number 18660-0121. The pump has a bronze body. It is a self priming and impellers and gaskets are readily available. If you happen to run it dry for an extended period, only the rubber impeller has to be replaced, you don't end up trashing the whole pump. It has a 360 gallon per hour capacity. It will outlast 50 of the cheap bilge pumps. Not cheap, mine was just shy of $140 on eBay but well worth it.

 

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[et1955]

I got an rdh mini highbanker. It's ok but could use a stronger pump. This is the second bilge pump I've used and it is finicky like the last one. They work on and off and when they stop working it's for no apparent reason. Anyway is there anything not gas powered that works better or a good brand to go with? I would just go with gas but I'm trying to move to the California motherload and figure I need something recirculating to stay legal.

As I understand it, anything with a motor, highbankers included, are illegal unless you are a certain distance from the river and that includes electric pumps.

 

[Clay Diggins]

As I understand it, anything with a motor, highbankers included, are illegal unless you are a certain distance from the river and that includes electric pumps.

If that were true there would be a law that says exactly that. There is no such law so run all the motors you want. IF there were such a law boats, cars, motorcycles, electric generation dams, water plants and a lot of farming would be illegal near water.

Sometimes the obvious facts point to the truth. In fact in logic there is such a concept it's called Occams Razor. You may know this as the KISS principle. Apply a little logic and you will see right through nonsense like motors near water are illegal.

If you don't like logic then you will have to come up with a law that states that motors can't be used near water. Good luck with that. Watch out for that boat wake and don't back up into that oncoming car when you move out of the way while you are using your non motorized pan.

Heavy Pans

 

[crumbaker]

As I understand it, anything with a motor, highbankers included, are illegal unless you are a certain distance from the river and that includes electric pumps.

Yup, which is why it has to be recirculating.

 

[Goldwasher]

If you want a pump that works and will last, get a Jabsco Water Puppy. The 12 volt model is Jabsco Part number 18660-0121. The pump has a bronze body. It is a self priming and impellers and gaskets are readily available. If you happen to run it dry for an extended period, only the rubber impeller has to be replaced, you don't end up trashing the whole pump. It has a 360 gallon per hour capacity. It will outlast 50 of the cheap bilge pumps. Not cheap, mine was just shy of $140 on eBay but well worth it.

6 gallons a minute...less with head pressure or restriction, is not gonna run much of anything helpful

 

[Goldwasher]

spend some money on a 3500 or higher bilge

Rule is a good brand

Rule 4000 Non-Automatic Bilge Pump - 24V

 

[crumbaker]

spend some money on a 3500 or higher bilge

Rule is a good brand

Rule 4000 Non-Automatic Bilge Pump - 24V

Could you run that on a standard 12v tractor battery though?

edit: I wonder if those Johnson's are any good, I think a 1250- 1500 would be the proper water flow for this thing, it's not that large, and do a lot of people just run standard highbankers in streams in California? I though it was illegal.

 

[Goldwasher]

its 24 v you would need two 12 v batteries

heres a 12 v johnson

your not running a hi banker in a stream it is a power sluice.

your allowed to sluice ...your allowed to have a motor....you do the math

 

[et1955]

If that were true there would be a law that says exactly that. There is no such law so run all the motors you want. IF there were such a law boats, cars, motorcycles, electric generation dams, water plants and a lot of farming would be illegal near water.

Sometimes the obvious facts point to the truth. In fact in logic there is such a concept it's called Occams Razor. You may know this as the KISS principle. Apply a little logic and you will see right through nonsense like motors near water are illegal.

If you don't like logic then you will have to come up with a law that states that motors can't be used near water. Good luck with that. Watch out for that boat wake and don't back up into that oncoming car when you move out of the way while you are using your non motorized pan.

Heavy Pans

Sorry you missed the point, this is about mining and it is not legal to use motorized or mechanized mining equipment within a certain area near a river in California. If that is not true please for all us Ca. miners prove me wrong. Many on this site have said the same thing and a certain club I belong too also will not use motorized mining equipment for mining on there outings. Believe me I hope I am wrong.

 

[Clay Diggins]

Sorry you missed the point, this is about mining and it is not legal to use motorized or mechanized mining equipment within a certain area near a river in California. If that is not true please for all us Ca. miners prove me wrong. Many on this site have said the same thing and a certain club I belong too also will not use motorized mining equipment for mining on there outings. Believe me I hope I am wrong.

No one can prove a your claim to be false because your claim contains no evidence that what you say is true. You made the claim (twice now)

it is not legal to use motorized or mechanized mining equipment within a certain area near a river in California

it's up to you to prove that claim. That may be your opinion but until you can produce a law declaring the use of "motorized or mechanized mining equipment" illegal it's nothing but a claim without proof. Welcome to the internet.


If it were true and you had produced a link to the California Code banning "motorized or mechanized mining equipment within a certain area near a river in California" to support your opinion it would be a different matter. We could discuss that. Until you do produce this imaginary law I, and others, will rely on the fact that there is no evidence of such law in the California Code.

You based your opinion on something. If that something was California law it should be easy to point us to this law. The law is public and available on the internet within the California Code. If, as you say, this is a California mining law it should be pretty easy to find it in the California Code governing mining. I don't find any such law there. Maybe you do?

Heavy Pans

 

[et1955]

No one can prove a your claim to be false because your claim contains no evidence that what you say is true. You made the claim (twice now)

it's up to you to prove that claim. That may be your opinion but until you can produce a law declaring the use of "motorized or mechanized mining equipment" illegal it's nothing but a claim without proof. Welcome to the internet.


If it were true and you had produced a link to the California Code banning "motorized or mechanized mining equipment within a certain area near a river in California" to support your opinion it would be a different matter. We could discuss that. Until you do produce this imaginary law I, and others, will rely on the fact that there is no evidence of such law in the California Code.

You based your opinion on something. If that something was California law it should be easy to point us to this law. The law is public and available on the internet within the California Code. If, as you say, this is a California mining law it should be pretty easy to find it in the California Code governing mining. I don't find any such law there. Maybe you do?

Heavy Pans

Not a lawyer and never will be but the challenge was sent to you, prove me and a lot others wrong.

 

[russau]

I got an rdh mini highbanker. It's ok but could use a stronger pump. This is the second bilge pump I've used and it is finicky like the last one. They work on and off and when they stop working it's for no apparent reason. Anyway is there anything not gas powered that works better or a good brand to go with? I would just go with gas but I'm trying to move to the California motherload and figure I need something recirculating to stay legal.

I've seen and heard the same thing only to do some investigating this problem. I found that when you start having irregular operating problems with a bilge pump ,you need to open it up and clean out the small inlet filter OR clean out its internal parts from clay or small derbies that got sucked in.....I've repaired many pumps in this fashion.

 

[Goldwasher]

Not a lawyer and never will be but the challenge was sent to you, prove me and a lot others wrong.

you realize the reason they try to use un clear definitions and changes of those definitions is because they didn't make an actual law

they count on people being to scared to disagree.

there is no non motorized mining law. There is however no shortage of people willing to give up and not stand up for themselves. Because standing up is hard these days.

That is where your mining club has failed. The best thing that club could do is get a group of people together and running a motor.