Brass, Copper, and lead Colonial Dig. Indian Trade Hawk Bell, OLD Coppers, Etc.

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Finally got a break from all the rain we have been having, so yesterday me and my buddy went back to the early colonial site we have been hunting.
It has rained hard for a couple of days now, and the site lit up like fire. Its amazing how many signals we were hearing.
We concentrated on the area we have been digging the buttons and coppers from, and hunted for about 4 hours.
I ended up with a couple shoe buckle frames, 2 Small French colonial marines buttons (the smallest of the 2 is 18mm and has a nipple in the center, which is a first).
2 more early coppers. One is 28mm and the other is 18mm. Im thinking the larger one is a 12 Denier, but would love some help on the ID.
The smaller one is pretty toasted but it do see some lettering, and it looks like the strike was very off center on this one.
Also dug a small fragment of an ornate brass item with hole in it, and what I think might be a lead pencil?//// Any help with ids would be much appreciated.
My buddy also dug a FCM button, a buckle frame, and a brass indian trade hawk bell, pictured.
He had no idea what it was, I thought it might be a trade bell, so I told him id clean it up a little and try to id it.
Check out this link, its pretty interesting.
Jim Maus Artifacts - Indian Brass Hawk Bells

Here are a few more pics of the copper coins. Please help with ID if possible.

 

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You do well every time you go... so keep going!

Thank you iron patch. Hopefully we will be going back right after Christmas. The rains have lit this place up. I cant believe all the signals we were hearing. We were digging lots of shallow targets in an area we have pounded. Most of it was tiny lead or junk, but I still cant believe all of that stuff was there.

This is not related, but a few times now I wondered what is wrong with the page every time you post because there's always more space to scroll down to get to the next post... and I just realized it's because of the long list of banner finds. Can only imagine if you would have been here since the forum started.

Not sure if youre joking with Crusader about all of his banners, but if you want to make them go away. You can click that little + or - sign by his top banner find, it will close his list, and make it smaller.

 

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Congrats on a crazy old token. My oldest item, ID'd by Cru, is a ca 1630 coin weight of Charles I for a gold English unite so you matched that.

Thanks for the Congrats on the old token. Its gona be hard to top that token as far as age. It predates my site by many years. And my site is old for my area.
Hopefully one day I can match that beautiful pile of silver you have as your signature.

 

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Thank you iron patch. Hopefully we will be going back right after Christmas. The rains have lit this place up. I cant believe all the signals we were hearing. We were digging lots of shallow targets in an area we have pounded. Most of it was tiny lead or junk, but I still cant believe all of that stuff was there.

Not sure if youre joking with Crusader about all of his banners, but if you want to make them go away. You can click that little + or - sign by his top banner find, it will close his list, and make it smaller.

Yeah i've opened a few lately and his banner list was obviously one of them.

 

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Thanks for the Congrats on the old token. Its gona be hard to top that token as far as age. It predates my site by many years. And my site is old for my area.
Hopefully one day I can match that beautiful pile of silver you have as your signature.

You could beat that by digging a countermarked Douzain. They were stamped or restruck, or both, for the Colonies in 1640, and the 1690s. There is known examples that date as early as the 1300s, but the most common are mid. to late 1500s, like the two I have found.

 

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You could beat that by digging a countermarked Douzain. They were stamped or restruck, or both, for the Colonies in 1640, and the 1690s. There is known examples that date as early as the 1300s, but the most common are mid. to late 1500s, like the two I have found.

That's pretty cool. Id like to break into the 16th century. Theres only one item I have dug that could possibly be that old, but ive never been able to date it.
Just spoke with my buddy on the phone and it looks like we will be going back soon.