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[legrand]

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Originally Posted by masterpoe
More and more the truth is progressing out of the Beale letters to Morriss. It is resemblance of something possibly fabricated by Beale in order to hide real event's. It is with all possiblity a total fabricated story line by Beale and his group as not to bring negative recourse on to themselves with the letters to Morriss. The Ciphers should clear up the story lines and hopefully give us the truth of the event that took place as to need ciphers to convey it!

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You are suggesting the Beale papers are a cover up ( undeciphered yet) to a cover up ?
A hidden cover up no one could figure out how to read.....to not attract attention to a real event.

 

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[ECS]

First one must establish that there actually a Thomas J Beale that presented Robert Morris with that iron box and sent him letters.
Without this being established, which never has in 132 years, what does that reveal about the two unsolved ciphers containing a real message?
The provided DOI "solved" C2 cipher contains flaws in the numbering which hints that the remaining two do not contain a credible plain syntax text message as the provided C2.

 

[bigscoop]

You guys just can't put anything out here "of fact" in support of your premature claims, can you..... The opening post pretty much leaves the field wide open to personal suspicions and speculations, yet again, don't it. Why not just post a single fact that directly connects your bold claims of solve to the source or the ciphers? Of course, we all already "know" why that can't be done....because there is none. And so, those premature claims have been, yet again, reduced to more threads of speculation and personal suspicions that basically leave the field wide open to whatever anyone wants to suspect or to believe. It's all been done before, time and time again, the same routine response as all those before you.....

 

[legrand]

But what if it is "established"...and what if the "flaws" were intentional? !!

 

[legrand]

Hmmm.

 

[bigscoop]

Keep bailing that same ocean water.....

 

[ECS]

"What if" always leads to rampant unsupported speculation that goes nowhere in proving anything concerning the Beale perilous adventure treasure story or the validity of the remaining two unsolved ciphers.

 

[bigscoop]

They keep trying to open highly speculative doors to make room for their highly speculative claims. It's a routine "direct connection" that they're just not getting. Fact never needs to open highly speculative doors, they are complete opposites.

 

[ECS]

Hmmm.

Are you groking that, like a stranger in a strange land?

 

[bigscoop]

Not only that, but there is nothing new in this thread's suggested notion, that notion having been put on the table shorty after Mark created TreasureNet and many times since. Just goes to show the very limited depth of many of these new posters in regards to full history of this mystery. The same can be said of Poe, etc., it's all been suggested and hashed out before.

 

[legrand]

But what if it is "established"...and what if the "flaws" were intentional? !!

But what if it is "established" ...and what if the "flaws" were intentional? !!

 

[ECS]

You guys just can't put anything out here "of fact" in support of your premature claims, can you.....
The opening post pretty much leaves the field wide open to personal suspicions and speculations, yet again, don't it.
Why not just post a single fact that directly connects your bold claims of solve to the source or the ciphers?
Of course, we all already "know" why that can't be done....because there is none...

They never have a "single fact" that they can DIRECTLY CONNECT their claims of "solved" ciphers or actual events to the original source, Ward's 1885 published THE BEALE PAPERS dime novel pamphlet.
It will always be a continuous series of "WHAT IFS".

 

[ECS]

But what if it is "established" ...

If it was "established" you and others wouldn't be wasting time posting on these threads to convince of that fact.
Now would you?

 

[bigscoop]

But what if it is "established" ...and what if the "flaws" were intentional? !!

"What If" "What If" Always the introductions of "what if" in place of the absence of any actual facts. It's all of these "what if's" and "doors to speculation" that even allow all of these false claims of solve to exist, which is why you guys keep leaning on those type of threads. Do you really think you're fooling anyone at this point? "What if"... "someday"....ect., etc., etc.

 

[legrand]

I knew you'd get it, Reb.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

(Singing...) "SOMEDAY, never comes..." - CCR.

 

[ECS]

First one must establish that there actually a Thomas J Beale that presented Robert Morris with that iron box and sent him letters.
Without this being established, which never has in 132 years, what does that reveal about the two unsolved ciphers containing a real message?
The provided DOI "solved" C2 cipher contains flaws in the numbering which hints that the remaining two do not contain a credible plain syntax text message as the provided C2.

Also, experts have determined that the syntax of Beale "letters" and narrative text were written by the same person.

 

[ECS]

But what if it is "established" ...and what if the "flaws" were intentional? !!

OR
"I'm afraid that the Beale Papers mystery story is just a fable or a house to hide or hold a secret or secrets. In other words TJB is not important. The treasure as described in the story is not important" -Legrand January 23, 2008

 

[ECS]

Hmmm.

"I hope my decipherment will provide sufficient information for someone to locate this Beale treasure"-Legrand September 22, 2005

"The treasure is in the decipherment of B1. The message seems to have been placed by Edgar Allen Poe. Poe has left a signature in B1".
-Legrand January 5,2007

"I'm still stuck on John William Sherman plagiarizing Poe (to make the Beale Papers look like THE GOLD BUG) and hiding a short encryption in B1 with a signature identifying Edgar Allen Poe. He wanted all to think that Poe created this mystery. He's (Sherman) actually a very good cryptographer" Legrand January 20, 2007

"I'd love to reveal more, but it must wait".-Legrand February 3, 2007

After 11 years it is still waiting to be revealed.
Hmmm

 

[franklin]

It will be released on the 15th of Neverember