bunch of silver from salvation army but need help with ID

[snowdogg70]

hey everyone i just got back from salvation army and picked up this pile of sterling but not sure what the apple looking things are at first i thought they might be salt and pepper shakers but there is no hole in bottom just the sterling 925 mark, also anyone know the maker or date on the bowl? thanks in advance

 

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[randazzo1]

Not sure on the apples but the Birks ring boxes sell really well - or at least they used to.

 

[RW]

Have you tried to screw/pull the bottom off of the "apples"?

 

[snowdogg70]

this is the bottom doesnt come apart

 

[SanMan]

Very Nice!

I'm trying to think what those apple looking pieces are,.......
Do they have any smell?

incense?

 

[RW]

The picture from the side showing the green tarnish where the base/stand meets the top/apple looks like it could possibly come apart because they sure do look like S&P shakers... A "pumpkin" shaker to be more specific. Have you tried to twist them with a bit of pressure?

Zoom the last picture, shaker on right.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202637467338

Pair Vintage Mexican/Mexico Sterling Silver Salt Pepper Shakers Pumpkin Shape Floral Engraved Marked Sterling Mexico on the base Shakers are about 2" tall with stem X 1 5/8" wide. Bases come unscrewed to add salt/pepper Bases have a few dents Please see photos

 

[tamrock]

There was a identical pair of those Mexican pumpkin S&P shakers with a small tray at my local indoor flea market with a price of $80 usd on them. They're not there anymore, so someone must have paid that much for them. They weren't for me at that price, cuz I only hunt for overlooked under priced silver and it's getting pretty lean these days in finding any of that.

 

[niffler]

The green tarnish threw me for a second, thought they might be nickel silver, but clearly marked sterling, so nice score!

 

[EQ8]

The bowl appears to be English, with the lion symbol.
925-1000 dot com is your friend.

 

[niffler]

Marks indicate made in London, England 1932. I can't read the makers mark on the far left.

https://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon.html

 

[Tommybuckets]

Candle holders. You stab the candle onto the metal twist that should be sticking straight up.

 

[snowdogg70]

haha you guys were right they are s&p shakers i guess i didnt want to twist too hard but sure enough the bottom comes off,they sure are ugly lol . thanks for your help

 

[A2coins]

Great score I have hot pounds of silver from these places that's some nice pieces

 

[snowdogg70]

I have hot pounds of silver from these places

i figure i have about 80 lbs or so, not to mention a nice pile of gold

 

[Red-Coat]

Marks indicate made in London, England 1932. I can't read the makers mark on the far left.

https://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon.html

The marks are for where it was assayed in order to be hallmarked, which is indeed London. There isn't (wasn't) an assay office in every city, so it doesn't always follow that the maker was also in London. The maker's mark looks pretty clear, but the problem is the OP's picture of it... which is out of focus. As said, it's the shield at the far left with the four letters or characters that we need. It shouldn't be too difficult to track down once we know what the letters are, unless it's an obscure maker. The last letter looks like 'F'

The date is not 1932 though. The date letter is a standard serifed lower case 'r' (not a gothic 'r') so it's 1912.

When a date letter is worn to the extent you can't be sure which font style it is, you can also determine which date chart to use from the shape of the shield containing the city mark.

That's a nice haul you have there @snowdogg70

 

[snowdogg70]

its hard to see even under a loupe, i love these old hallmarked things

 

[snowdogg70]

ok i come up with george jackson and david fullerton

 

[Red-Coat]

ok i come up with george jackson and david fullerton

Yep. You're quite right. Just goes to show you can’t rely on the location of the assay office used for hallmarking as also being the location of the maker. This is a Bristol maker: George Jackson & David Fullerton - Josiah Williams & Co



The company was the largest manufacturing silversmiths in England outside the big centres of London, Birmingham and Sheffield. Established in 1818 and having gone through several name changes, Williams and Jackson were in partnership from 1877 until the retirement of Williams in 1879 and then Fullerton joined the company as a partner in 1884. Your bowl was made in 1912, as already said. The factory was then operating out of Three Queens Lane Bristol, but had a sales office at 25 Thavies Inn, Holborn, London. It ceased trading in 1940.

 

[niffler]

The marks are for where it was assayed in order to be hallmarked, which is indeed London. There isn't (wasn't) an assay office in every city, so it doesn't always follow that the maker was also in London. The maker's mark looks pretty clear, but the problem is the OP's picture of it... which is out of focus. As said, it's the shield at the far left with the four letters or characters that we need. It shouldn't be too difficult to track down once we know what the letters are, unless it's an obscure maker. The last letter looks like 'F'

The date is not 1932 though. The date letter is a standard serifed lower case 'r' (not a gothic 'r') so it's 1912.

When a date letter is worn to the extent you can't be sure which font style it is, you can also determine which date chart to use from the shape of the shield containing the city mark.

That's a nice haul you have there @snowdogg70

You're right...I stand corrected. Should have been wearing my glasses.

 

[nomad 11]

obviously s&p shakers. maybe crafted for a pumpkin farmer ? thats what look like to me ? oh but what do i know ? i could'nt comprehend why anyone would scrap those though being over 100 years old. they would be desirable to someone ?