Conical metal arrowhead?

[JohnDee1]

I am probably going to get banned, but here I go. I dug this out of deep anaerobic soil, and it looked like a conical trade arrowhead to me. I posted this in the what is it section, and was met with rightful ridicule. It has something like wood in the back, and there appears to be holes maybe for a pin in the side . Sorry for wasting everyone’s time. I would understand if I was banned. This site got me thinking https://www.peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org/index.php/2-uncategorised/16-kaskaskia-points.

 

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[Grizz12]

How do you know there is wood inside?

 

[JohnDee1]

The Back end has something that seems more organic or dirt like.

 

[Kray Gelder]

Don't know why you would get banned. On your last post you had put up a link for those trade arrow tips, and I thought that could be a possibility. In fairness to others, your find, in it's current condition, with the roots growing out of the tip, and mangled beyond recognition, was bound to elicit some wise cracks. Where did that link go, and why don't you try straightening and cleaning it some? Not like you're going to hurt it, or damage it's monetary value.

 

[Fred250]

Enough of the apologetic tone, nobodies buying it anymore. This forum seems to let everyone have their say as long as they don’t insult others, which is why it’s the best. Worst that happens is they move your post to geofact forum. That is an odd looking piece of sonething, cool find.

 

[JohnDee1]

I overacted in a way, though I did think I was going to get banned after posting that link. Still no idea what it is, thought it's probably not a conical arrowhead. It appears to be entirely made out of iron due to magnetic properties and my detectors reading. The wiry bits are actually twisted metal, and its covered by a thin iron sheet. I apologize for my tone earlier.

 

[Indian Steve]

Have you tried a magnet on it yet? It doesn't look like metal when I enlarged the picture. It certainly is a strange cool thing. I hope someone IDs it.

 

[JohnDee1]

I did try a magnet on it, and it is pretty magnetic. Detector red it as iron. Fairly deep in the gravel bar as well. Though I doubt it will be identified, due to the banged up nature. I will refrain in the future from posting odd metal objects to the wrong forum.

 

[tomclark]

Found with a few others on a site that was occupied before and after the Seminole Indian Wars 1 and 2.

 

[dognose]

I dont see in any of the 4 images any of the overlap area where the metal edge should be visible. Am I missing it?

 

[JohnDee1]

Your not missing anything, just my imagination run amok over a deep dug piece of scrap. On the brightside, we get to see tomclark’s beautiful example.

 

[MAMucker]

View attachment 1703004 Found with a few others on a site that was occupied before and after the Seminole Indian Wars 1 and 2.

Now that IS fun to look at. The first excellent photo of one that I’ve seen.
I read that some copper points were made from copper cookware during the contact period. What do you know about this one?

 

[MAMucker]

I am probably going to get banned, but here I go. I dug this out of deep anaerobic soil, and it looked like a conical trade arrowhead to me. I posted this in the what is it section, and was met with rightful ridicule. It has something like wood in the back, and there appears to be holes maybe for a pin in the side . Sorry for wasting everyone’s time. I would understand if I was banned. This site got me thinking https://www.peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org/index.php/2-uncategorised/16-kaskaskia-points. View attachment 1702863 View attachment 1702864 View attachment 1702865 View attachment 1702866

That hurts my eyes.

 

[Backbacon]

 

[Backbacon]

Found this baby a couple of years back, nice and heavy. View attachment 1734158

 

[smokeythecat]

Here's some of mine. I don't have many. Two trade brass arrowheads.

"Tinkling cones", used as ornaments that would make a tinkling noise when they banged together.

Indian made gun flints.

Two very large Venetian glass "chevron" trade beads, 6 layer, 1800's from Georgia.

 

[Older The Better]

Since we are sharing, my best trade stuff and my metal points, 3 iron one copper

 

[smokeythecat]

Amazing how the style changes with 100 years added in between! Stuff is hard to find, no matter where you live.

 

[Worm-Slicer]

Here's a photo of my one and only brass one. When I dug it, I had no idea what it was and thought it was just scrap and almost tossed the wood stuck in the back, which I wondered what that was there for. Once finding out what it was, it is obvious that is part of the arrow shaft, preserved by reacting with the brass. I also have a couple of iron ones I found at a 1700's fort site. Not sure what the difference is with iron and brass or if there is any kind of difference with them being made from separate materials. I would like to know if there is though.

 

[Older The Better]

Yeah ive got an 1830 date based on back marks, button design and the gun pieces