CRISPINS CRITTERS

[AU24K]

I've often said that "insanity" is a "relative" term;


If you don't believe me, look at my relatives.....


BANG!
(Flash of "White Light.....")


To the back of my head!

Who?

Why?

What?

MOM?

 

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[Backbacon]

I've read enough of Einstein's works to even dislike some of my own relatives in relation to a perfect theory. LOL.... Good Night Y'all and love thy brothers and sisters.

 

[0121stockpicker]

As your minister of skepticism. Probably the most common fallacy used on this chat board. Call them out when you see them, help others not to be deceived. Definition from Wikipedia.

Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias. Cherry picking may be committed unintentionally.

The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the fruit is in such good condition.

Cherry picking can be found in many logical fallacies. For example, the "fallacy of anecdotal evidence" tends to overlook large amounts of data in favor of that known personally, "selective use of evidence" rejects material unfavorable to an argument, while a false dichotomy picks only two options when more are available.

 

[0121stockpicker]

After reading above go back and read a bunch of old posts on the 2nd board and you can see how often this is used. It starts to become real obvious after a while. Best.

 

[KevinInColorado]

But I only want to eat the nice cherries...and only think about facts that support my own beliefs! Hmmm

 

[Dano Sverige]

Could be his favorite gm motor too you know......Although Ford's was much more well known.
302

General Motors produced a special 302 cu in (4.9 L) (referred to as 5.0 L) engine exclusively for the production Z/28 Chevrolet Camaro (first generation) in order for it to meet the Sports Car Club of America SCCA Trans-Am Series racing rules from 1967–1969. It was the product of placing the 283 3-inch stroke crankshaft into a 4-inch bore 327 block. The 1967 302 used the same nodular cast-iron crank as the 283[4], with a forged-steel crankshaft that was also produced. This block is one of 3 displacements, 302/327/350, that underwent a crankshaft bearing diameter transformation for 1968 when the rod-journal size was increased from the 2.00 in. diameter small-journal to a 2.10 large-journal and the main-journal size was increased from 2.30 in. to 2.45. The large-journal connecting rods were heavier and used 3/8 in. diameter cap-bolts to replace the small-journal's 11/32. 1968 blocks were made in 2-bolt and 4-bolt versions with the 4-bolt center-three main caps each fastened by two additional bolts which were supported by the addition of heavier crankcase main-web bulkheads. When the journal size increased to the standard large-journal size, the crankshaft for the 302 was specially built of tufftride-hardened forged 1053-steel and fitted with a high-rpm 8.00 in. diameter harmonic balancer. It had a 3/4-length semi-circular windage tray, heat-treated, magnafluxed, and shot-peened forged 1038-steel 'pink' connecting rods, floating-pin in `69, and forged-aluminum pistons with higher scuff-resistance, better sealing single-moly rings. Its solid-lifter cam, known as the '30-30 Duntov' cam named after its .030/.030 in. intake/exhaust hot valve-lash and Zora Arkus-Duntov (the Duntov cam was the .012/.018 1957 camshaft known as the '097, which referred to the last three digits of the casting number) the "father of the Corvette", was also used in the 1964-65 carbureted 327/365 and F.I. 327/375 engines. It used the '202' 2.02/1.60 valve diameter high-performance 327 double-hump `461 heads, pushrod guide plates, hardened 'blue-stripe' pushrods, edge-orifice lifters to keep more valvetrain oil in the crankcase for high-rpm lubrication, and stiffer valvesprings. In 1967, a new design high-rise cast-aluminum dual-plane intake manifold with larger smoother passage turn runners was introduced for the Z/28 that the LT-1 350 1969 Corvette and 1970 Z/28 engines were equipped with until the Q-jet carburetor returned in 1973. Unlike the Corvette, the exhaust manifolds were the more restrictive rear outlet 'log' design to clear the Camaro's front cross-member. It had a chrome oil filler tube and valve covers from 1967 to 1968, and chrome 14.00 x 3.00 in. drop-base open-element air-cleaner assembly on a 780cfm vacuum secondary Holley 4-Bbl carburetor. A 'divorced' exhaust crossover port heated well-choke thermostat coil was used to provide cleaner and faster engine warm-up. Its single-point distributor had an ignition point cam designed to reduce point-bounce at high-rpm along with a vacuum diaphragm to advance ignition timing at idle and part-throttle for economy and emissions. Balancer and water-pump pulleys, as well as optional power-steering pulleys, were deep-groove for fan belt retention at high-rpm. In 1969, the 302 shared the finned cast-aluminum valve covers with the LT-1 350 Corvette engine. Conservatively rated at 290 hp (216 kW) (SAE gross) at 5800 rpm and 290 lb-ft at 4800, actual output with its production 11:1 compression ratio was around 376 hp (280 kW) with 1.625 in. primary x 3.0 secondary tubular headers that came in the trunk when ordered with a new Z/28, carburetor main-jet, and ignition timing tuning[SUP][citation needed][/SUP].
After the 1967 Trans-Am campaign with the 4-Bbl induction system producing more horsepower than the competing auto makers' 8-Bbl systems, for 1968 Chevrolet developed a factory 'cross-ram' aluminum intake-manifold package using two Holley 600cfm mechanical-secondary carburetors for Trans-Am racing. It was available only as off-road service parts purchased over the Chevrolet dealership parts counter. With the Chevrolet '140 1st-design off-road cam, the package increased a stock 302's hp from 360 hp to approximately 400. Chevrolet went so far as to carry the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) system over to the cross-ram induction system to retain emissions compliance mandated for U.S.-produced cars beginning in 1967, that also provided full-throttle crankcase pressure venting to the intake air to burn its vapors. Engines prepared for competition use were capable of producing 465 hp with little more than the 8-Bbl induction, ported heads with higher pressure valvesprings, roller rocker arms, and the '754 2nd-design road-race cam. 1967/1968 models' cowl-induction system had an enclosed air-cleaner assembly ducted from its passenger side into the firewall cowl above the heater core. In 1969, factory ZL-2 cowl-induction hoods were available for both the single and dual four-barrel induction systems that were sealed to the air-cleaner base ensuring cooler, high-pressure, dense air from the center of the base of the windshield was supplied to the engine for combustion smoothness and maximum power production. Another popular service-parts-only component used on the 302 was the magnetic-pulse Delco transistor-ignition ball-bearing inductive-ignition distributor, introduced in 1967 and also used in the L88 427 Corvette, that eliminated the production breaker-point ignition allowing greater spark energy and more stable ignition-timing at high engine speeds[SUP][citation needed][/SUP].
The 302's bore/stroke and rod/stroke geometries made it a natural high-rpm engine and were responsible for its being among the more reliable production street engines homologated for full-competition across all the American makes winning back-to-back Trans-Am Championships at the hands of Mark Donohue in 1968 and 1969. Trans-Am rules required that all engine components have Chevrolet production part numbers and be purchased through Chevrolet dealerships. However, the pinnacle of the 302's use in professional racing was its being the primary engine that powered the outstanding but overshadowed 1968-1976 SCCA Formula 5000 Championship Series, a SCCA Formula A open-wheel class designed for lower cost. Weighing 1400 lbs., with 525-550 hp, a 5-spd. magnesium transaxle, and 20 in. wide 15 in. rear wheels, it produced incredibly exciting racing. Prepared with a Lucas-McKay mechanically-timed fuel-injection individual-stack magnesium induction-system that was paired with ported production double-hump iron heads, a rev-kit fitted roller-lifter camshaft, roller bearing rocker arms, and a virtually stock production crankshaft, it had a lasting impact on the series' ability to conduct high car-number finishes and close competition events by the degree of mechanical success it provided to a series filled with star international Grand Prix drivers like David Hobbs, Brian Redman, Jody Scheckter, and Mario Andretti.

"The one phrase you NEVER say to an American is "so, you have a car?", for if you do your whole life will surely pass you by before they stop speaking!" - Winston Churchill.

Never a truer word spoken lol...sheesh!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

"Perhaps an idea for another thread?" Sounds like a good thread. Are the vehicles or their engines worried about a government takeover?

The NEW Dukes of Hazzard!!!

 

[G.I.B.]

~ Declaration from the Office of the Secretary of War ~

I've seen a few potential conflicts begin to emerge on this thread.

Henceforth:

1. Disagreements will be settled within 24 hours after an official challenge has been presented.
2. Both parties will consume sufficient amounts of alcohol (users choice) to be considered legally impaired in their respective jurisdiction.
3. Combatants will then report to the 'range' for testing. Testing Range
4. Test results must be posted with a quote pertaining to the originating offensive post.
5. The person to go the furtherest shall be declared the victor, and winner of the conflict.

(Screen shots are required for proof of compliance)

The looser shall be required to stare at 302guy's avatar for 10 minutes, no blinking.

The battle shall then be declared over.

 

[ivan salis]

is it because you do not think the govt can or will attempt to take over --or --because you think the people would stop it if they tried? which is the reasoning as to why your not afraid of a govt take over.

because as will rogers once famously said --no mans life , liberty or property is safe while congress is in session

also "we have met the enemy , and they is us"--pogo

if this great nation is to fall --it will not be from forces from without , but by forces from within.

 

[Crispin]

is it because you do not think the govt can or will attempt to take over --or --because you think the people would stop it if they tried? which is the reasoning as to why your not afraid of a govt take over.

That is for each individual to decide. The only criteria for joining the list is "Not being worried about a government takeover." If you decide you fall in that category and would like to join...Welcome Aboard Mate!

 

[Crispin]

Welcome to our newest member, LordDean13! You are joining during an exciting time for our club, there are lots of new positions being opened. For his stellar work in the field of music, I appoint Au24K as Asst. Minister of Music. Also, for his outstanding achievements in the field of excellence, for being of sound mind and able body, and for general good will, I appoint Ammonhotep as Captain of the Homeguard. Congrats! Anybody have an update on our efforts to recruit Spart?

Updated list:

Crispin (President)
Rebel -KGC (Co-mystic)
Bill from Lachine (Vice President, Zen Master of Music)
JerseyBen (Secretary of State)
1/2 of RelevantChair (NRA member, Ambassador to the NRA)
Barb alias Squiggy (Minister of Equality)
0121StockPicker (Minister of Skepticism)
BosnMate
BBcamay (Admiral of Models)
Davest (Secretary of the Interior)
G.I.B. (Secretary of War)
Lakedweller
Pat-tekker-cat (Co-mystic)
BackBacon (Chief Chef and culinary advisor)
KevinInColorado (Provisioner of Libations)
Dejapooh (Minister of Commerce)
UncleMatt
Hvacker (Chief of Civil Service)
LinkHylian
Au24K (Ambassador to the Wolf Pack, Asst. Minister of Music)
Dano Sverige (Black-Ops Coordinator)
Ammonhotep (Captain of the Homeguard)
ReconDigger (Antiquities Recovery Specialist)
# 24: Jeff-Gordon's anonymous friend (Ambassador to NASCAR)
Woodstock
LordDean13
Big Bird (the yellow one)

Who is next? We are a bottomless bowl of nachos...grab a jalepeno.

Crispin

 

[Crispin]

Crispin you may have out done urself with this one
I am settin up another flag across the valley consider this
a shot across your bow weehoooo!

Thanks Bevo,
Sounds like you are thinking on joining. We need a Head of Parks and Recreation. What say you?
Crispin

 

[ivan salis]

can i join as "head of ex military C & R firearms dept"?

ask about my 1935 hex moison nagant 91/30 -- CN (sniper accurite ) marked iron sight "company sharpshooter " sniping rifle

 

[Crispin]

Welcome Ivan Salis! From previous conversations, I know you will be a great addition to the club. Can you tell me about your 1935 hex moison nagant 91/30? Also, I am appointing you the Head of ex-military C&R Firearms Dept. Thank you for your service. Perhaps you can work closing with RelevantChair, he is our ambassador to the NRA.

Updated list:

Crispin (President)
Rebel -KGC (Co-mystic)
Bill from Lachine (Vice President, Zen Master of Music)
JerseyBen (Secretary of State)
1/2 of RelevantChair (NRA member, Ambassador to the NRA)
Barb alias Squiggy (Minister of Equality)
0121StockPicker (Minister of Skepticism)
BosnMate
BBcamay (Admiral of Models)
Davest (Secretary of the Interior)
G.I.B. (Secretary of War)
Lakedweller
Pat-tekker-cat (Co-mystic)
BackBacon (Chief Chef and culinary advisor)
KevinInColorado (Provisioner of Libations)
Dejapooh (Minister of Commerce)
UncleMatt
Hvacker (Chief of Civil Service)
LinkHylian
Au24K (Ambassador to the Wolf Pack, Asst. Minister of Music)
Dano Sverige (Black-Ops Coordinator)
Ammonhotep (Captain of the Homeguard)
ReconDigger (Antiquities Recovery Specialist)
# 24: Jeff-Gordon's anonymous friend (Ambassador to NASCAR)
Woodstock
LordDean13
IvanSalis (Head of ex-military C&R Firearms Dept.)
Big Bird (the yellow one)

Who is next? First we rock, then we roll, and then we rock and roll.

Crispin

 

[spartacus53]

ask about my 1935 hex moison nagant 91/30 -- CN (sniper accurite ) marked iron sight "company sharpshooter " sniping rifle

Look for some notches, or this person below initial's on that bad boy V G Z

 

[Dano Sverige]

Sparty join us. You can be "minister of funny walks"....very Monty Python-ish.

Little confused here: Is AU24k "Ambassador to the wolfpack" or "Ambassador OF the wolfpack"?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Welcome to our newest member, LordDean13! You are joining during an exciting time for our club, there are lots of new positions being opened. For his stellar work in the field of music, I appoint Au24K as Asst. Minister of Music. Also, for his outstanding achievements in the field of excellence, for being of sound mind and able body, and for general good will, I appoint Ammonhotep as Captain of the Homeguard. Congrats! Anybody have an update on our efforts to recruit Spart?

Updated list:

Crispin (President)
Rebel -KGC (Co-mystic)
Bill from Lachine (Vice President, Zen Master of Music)
JerseyBen (Secretary of State)
1/2 of RelevantChair (NRA member, Ambassador to the NRA)
Barb alias Squiggy (Minister of Equality)
0121StockPicker (Minister of Skepticism)
BosnMate
BBcamay (Admiral of Models)
Davest (Secretary of the Interior)
G.I.B. (Secretary of War)
Lakedweller
Pat-tekker-cat (Co-mystic)
BackBacon (Chief Chef and culinary advisor)
KevinInColorado (Provisioner of Libations)
Dejapooh (Minister of Commerce)
UncleMatt
Hvacker (Chief of Civil Service)
LinkHylian
Au24K (Ambassador to the Wolf Pack, Asst. Minister of Music)
Dano Sverige (Black-Ops Coordinator)
Ammonhotep (Captain of the Homeguard)
ReconDigger (Antiquities Recovery Specialist)
# 24: Jeff-Gordon's anonymous friend (Ambassador to NASCAR)
Woodstock
LordDean13
Big Bird (the yellow one)

Who is next? We are a bottomless bowl of nachos...grab a jalepeno.

Crispin

Spart has his "terms"...

 

[releventchair]

Title of fallen away scout?

 

[Dano Sverige]

TH just locked his "England gun laws" thread because i asked why he'd post all the stuff he did,only to lock it without cause or provocation? .....very odd!

 

[G.I.B.]

This has absolutely nothing to do with anything. I'm waiting for my computer to finish a task and while waiting I thought I would post it.