Dixie co. Florida birdie

[Indian.outlaw]

Base and basal edges are ground smooth. Pics don’t do it justice, very well made.

 

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[Tdog]

Santo Fe.

Santa Fe Auriculate

www.projectilepoints.net

 

[newnan man]

Love those Florida points.

 

[Indian.outlaw]

Love those Florida points.

Me too!

 

[dognose]

Very nice.
The mannerization looks sweet.

 

[ShortLobster]

What material is it? Vey cool point.

 

[Indian.outlaw]

What material is it? Vey cool point.

Raw chert I’m not sure the specific name. Thanks!

 

[Relicgrubber]

Its Hillsborough chert. I only say that becuase one of my Newnans I posted is Hillsborough...

 

[newnan man]

I was thinking Coastal Plains Chert. Point is a little dirty so hard to tell exactly.

 

[Indian.outlaw]

I was thinking Coastal Plains Chert. Point is a little dirty so hard to tell exactly.

That’s the materiel actually, fresh out of a toothbrush bath before these pictures.

 

[newnan man]

That’s the materiel actually, fresh out of a toothbrush bath before these pictures.

My bad, are the darker areas stains or part of the material? Lots of white & biege colored chert in Florida.

 

[sandchip]

Very nice point. Dependent on the extent of the basal grinding, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of it being a Dalton.

 

[Older The Better]

I was thinking same as sandchip, I know nothing of Florida points but my first impression was it has a hint of dalton in there, those ears have a bit of that characteristic dalton form…

should have clicked the Santa Fe link before posting, looks like everyone is saying the same thing.

 

[sandchip]

I was thinking same as sandchip, I know nothing of Florida points but my first impression was it has a hint of dalton in there, those ears have a bit of that characteristic dalton form…

should have clicked the Santa Fe link before posting, looks like everyone is saying the same thing.

I believe the type is going to hinge on the degree of grinding. The finder said, "...ground smooth.", which sounds pretty heavy to me. The link on the Santa Fe characteristics mention light to absent basal grinding, that and what looks like a pretty heavy patina, make me lean me more toward Dalton. The patina also makes it hard to see the flaking, so it's one of those situations where you really need to hold the point in hand to make a better guess as to type.

 

[Indian.outlaw]

Very nice point. Dependent on the extent of the basal grinding, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of it being a Dalton.

I agree. Mainstream typology has a different dating approach due to Bullen’s dating of Santa Fe points. No disrespect to him at all, his work is much appreciated, but I side with Son Anderson on Santa Fe being paleo/paleo transitional. From the raw materiel, ground base & basal edges, to being dug up at the same level as Simpson and other paleo artifacts. PRETTY MUCH in my opinion, they are the bird point version of a Dalton.

 

[Indian.outlaw]

My bad, are the darker areas stains or part of the material? Lots of white & biege colored chert in Florida.

No worries brother, darker stains are part of the materiel. I have a handful of other points like this from the same site. Raw materiel and ground base & basal edges. I’ve got a pile of pinellas that are all local and some have lightly ground bases, but it’s obvious the materiel is heat treated on the pinellas. They look thousands of years younger. I’ll post an example here soon.

 

[newnan man]

You are correct, heat treated flint gets very glossy.