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Hi Don Jose, That's quite an unusual account, do you think this was possibly meant to lead your Son and Beto, to find the Mine? I have heard of people being led to treasure, by spirits, as well as being discouraged, or run off by them... ThanksCoffee peeps? Bk to spirits etc., up at Tayopa my son and several others dropped down into the canyon to check several things, They were to be there several days. That night they camped above the hi water mark
During the night My son woke up from something, He found that Beto also was awake, so still hearing a curious noise they both crept down to a large rock overlooking the bottom. They saw a large group of men coming up the canyon using torches and talking loudly.
At first they were afraid that the narcos in the area were looking for them, but as the group passed them, they relaxed.
The group of noisy men continued up the canyon then turned to the left following the canyon and disappeared around the curve.
The next morning the entire group searched the lower canyon but could not find a single track in the sand or any broken brush. They continued around the turn and found themselves just below the Santo Nino Mine
They never appeared again.
Conclusion ? spirit miners ??
Don Jose de La Mancha
I am good for another 60 - 70 years, time enough for the book
mdog: THANK YOU for YOUR SERVICE!, And thanks for sharing the insight...
I told my cousin that maybe God must have a purpose for him to still be here, but I don't know... Glad you and he made it... Regret the losses and hate war for that, though sometimes I guess you (our country) "supposedly" gotta' do what you gotta' do...
I am thankful for freedom, even if it's alot different nowdays, than what our fathers knew. I know it has been, and is continually bought and paid for with blood, sweat, tears, suffering, lives, sacrifices with horrible, unspeakable pain... It has to be exceedingly tough... In every area.
Thanks Again: For Your Service For This Great Country. So we can all go treasure hunt if we like...
Ditto to Mdog - thank you for your service!
Don Jose, Real de Tayopa wrote
Yes I would say that you have already had plenty of time to have gotten that book finished by now. So when is the publication date? Thank you in advance.
Please do continue, great posts!
Oroblanco
Hi, Rick: It's Excellent that you found Treasure Hunting to enjoy...When I hear a story like your cousin's I feel sympathy because I know he has some hard times ahead of him. My kids grew up with the hall light on every night, not because they were afraid of the dark, but because their dad wanted to be able to see where he was when he opened up his eyes in the middle of a nightmare. I fought my way through some terrible depressions by myself because I didn't want to bother the people who loved me with my problems. Don't let your cousin do that.
This treasure hunting hobby has really helped me a lot. I love the history and the excitement of the search. I can focus on something positive and exchange ideas and information with people who have the same interest. It's been great and I love it. I guess this would be a good time to thank all of you ladies and gentlemen for your kindness and generosity.
Rick
Rebel - KGC: Good Luck, hope you have an excellent totally enjoyable trip!Wife & I are going to Outer Banks, NC this week-end (walking the beaches); will ask PIRATE "Ghosties" to lead us to their buried treasures; MAY just hear... "AHOY, MATIES!" HA!
Well, we went out (Chinese Restaurant) last night; I ate with chop-sticks (like to play with my food at times...). ANYWAY, our Fortune Cookies said... GOOD FORTUNE AWAITS YOU; GREAT ABUNDANCE IS NEAR. We can't WAIT!
It really is Fascinating, the history of Piracy that we know of... Talk about some treasure stories, with spirits supposedly involved...Reading stories of PIRATES Treasures of Outer Banks, NC; staying in motel in Kill Devil Hills... LOL!
So What heavy bodied thing could make that much noise, run displacing river cobbles, enter the water with the ususl splashing yet just disappear, leaving absolutely no trace of it's passing? Even the water was undisturbrd , no suspended fine silt
His eyes momentarily flickered, then he said "so you have met the Duendes eh?" "Duendes?" I asked "yes, the spirits of miners of the past guarding treasures and mines". He replied. Did you see the remains of a house near you?" Yes, about 50 meters further up". I replied, "Well that used to be my families, but the duendes made so much fuss that we had to move"
K on the paranormal experiences, the Mayo river near here is dammed by the Macuzari Dam. During the hurricane season many times the over load is too much for the spill ways and by pass tunnels to handle, and, as a result, it fills to the rim,,or even above, many small lakes are formed up stream.
One of which was formed on Don Norbertos property.near Piedras Verdes.This formed a fair sized shallow lake which was filled with mature bass. As the level lowered the bass become frantic for food, and every cast produces a trremendous strike, fun for us, but not for the Bass. However since they were trapped by the falling water, we used to harvest them .
One day we collaborated with Don Manual Sanchez of Piedras verdes to go camp there for a few days looking for Placer Gold while at the same time holding a Bass Ho Do.
I had an older VW Kombi converted into a camper -really quite comfortable, while Manual used my extra pop up tent for he, and his family.
We camped in a nice level spot just above the silt area from the receding water level.
The first night something woke me up, I could hear some heavy animal such as a Mule, Cow, or horse moving as if grazing. This just lulled me back to sleep when another noise woke me wide awake. I decided to investigate and run off any live stock so that I could go back to sleep.
When I finally climbed out of the VW with the usual noise I hear something heavy running off into the shallow water. It distinctly made several steps in the shallows displacing river cobbles and splashing. I looked over at Marangula, nothing was to be seen, so I called to him saying "come on,,let's see what it was". "NO way" he shouted back, "I am not leaving this tent". Since I couldn't convince him, I went to where I had heard the animal (?) enter the water, There was a film of thick, red, slimy fine silt to the waters' edge --- NO tracks??
I Continued on into the water, it was crystal clear, again no muddy water or overturned cobbles There was nothing visible on or in the water , but where had what ever made the noise etc gone ? I could possibly see foe a few hundred meters in all directions, yet nothing? Just flat calm water like a mirror.
So What heavy bodied thing could make that much noise, run displacing river cobbles, enter the water with the ususl splashing yet just disappear, leaving absolutely no trace of it's passing? Even the water was undisturbrd , no suspended fine silt
I went back to bed, the next morning everything was normal with my friend, but he refused to even talk about it or stay there another night, we finally had to return to Piedras Verdes.
Later I had a chance to talk to Don Noroberto and explained what had happed up there.
His eyes momentarily flickered, then he said "so you have met the Duendes eh?" "Duendes?" I asked "yes, the spirits of miners of the past guarding treasures and mines". He replied. Did you see the remains of a house near you?" Yes, about 50 meters further up". I replied, "Well that used to be my families, but the duendes made so much fuss that we had to move"
"Duendes eh?" I replied , "ever find anything or hear of any mine etc near there?" "no," he" replied, "But they are guarding something, since many others have heard them also."
So there she sits, anyone for tresure or lost mine hunting comeplete with ghosties
Don Jose de La Mancha??.