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Real of Tayopa

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Gracias Red, for your information that is just about where I calculated t to be, however my point would not be practical. I had figured that a side tunnel above the hiwater level had to extend out to the deposit from the original pit, It was not logical that if someone had sprung the water trap that they would never have been able to retrieve their goodies, owing to their far less deficient dewatering ability in those days.

I will post your data in the Oak island forum and suggest that if they use it, that they recognize your ability and accordingly compensate you when they actually find something.

Ypou continue to impress me RED.
 

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Real of Tayopa

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Sam, i am clueless on what i was attempting to do, unless it was to show how a psychological profile o a person can be easily done, and correctly. If you want to test it, give me a birthdate of someone you know intimately and I will work on it, to be posted by PM, under the condition that you honestly let me know how close I am.. Hr is fairly important.
 

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Probably, there will be investors on this kind of operation......think the article I'd read mentioned a company or investors on the last attempt which hit water. If not they must have put a lot of time and money into it. Wasn't the carved rock with the code found above, maybe even above the high water mark?
 

Gabriel Maza

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Friend Red, can you help me??

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I have this area where I'm very close to something good, but I can't decipher the signals.

do you think that something here?
 

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Here are some areas you might want to take a look at.
 

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Believe it or not, I found a rock on our property, with an identical carving as where the eye would be on the animal head. Just got the rock out to look at it. We have Native American carvings and stone artifacts here. The pics of it were in my old computer, need to take new ones or find the thread where they were posted.
 

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Gabriel Maza

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wooooooow When can send me photos to see them?

It is interesting.

someone took their way of doing them, to hide something.

some more

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Yes, I will show you the rock and definitely is Native American symbols. The carving which is like an eye on the rock, iis more of a pentagon shape. The photos show this carving from different directions and angles of view.

Once long time ago, I'd posted these pics in the Native American board and everyone said the lines where from farm equipment. Nobody could believe it was anything important.

The type of rock is a iron magnesium aluminum silicate with water in the chemical formula called an amphibole and is a bluish green color.
 

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your mark will stand this, this in a tree. As if outside a pine

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This tree is 100 feet from the previous

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Those tree carvings are interesting and the often used the some of the same symbols the Indians had for thousands of years. The turtle was a sacred Native American icon of Mother Earth.

Let me show you the back side of my rock. It now has the appearance of a bird of prey. I thought at first the large carved out area made this likely to be a stone tool. The hole is very abrasive and should work like sand paper does to smooth wood. Perhaps even for rough shaping wood items.

The other side has that small carving as on your one photo. Also seems shaped to point in a direction. The one photo the stone was washed off, is a darker blue-green color when wet, otherwise the color is more green than bluish. This type of mineral was brought down by glaciers during the ice age, all the way from Canada. Also Japan has deposits of this mineral in many places. Indians must have liked the color, green is a color for Mother Earth.
 

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The sides of the small carving are deep casting a shadow. Holding it different directions make the shape change. From a distance as a diamond or up close almost a pentagon. Down inside seems to be a tiny shadow pointer. I even wondered if the purpose was a type of sun dial to tell the time of day or seasons. Otherwise it must be to indicate a direction.
 

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Maybe I can add even a couple new angles of view. To think that a particular carving made in Mexico, looks to be so close to another, made far north of the border.....shows the tribes were all conected in North America.
 

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Here is your symbol and the meaning, these were pictographs used to write calendars.
 

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I cropped down and rotated your carving for a better look.
 

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Take a look, check to see whether you have calendar stones.
 

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Here are more, hard to recognize sometimes, on the carvings.
 

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These stones not be them sees symbol any, only cuts foreign and hole.


Sunday I went to one of the areas that I spent, your mark the call red desert.

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And I found some interesting points, but I could not go to the exact spot because there are lots of vegetation. This Saguaro has some marks on it part low and in the part high a Crown

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a stone with a triangle that points to a stone with form of headstone

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and this stone, which the pareser there is an elephant, a Fox and a bear, and the rear portion of a heart is seen with a duck out

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