Dug a TRAIN...Early 1700s Relics & Turn of the century BOTTLE!

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Dug a TRAIN...Early 1700's Relics & Turn of the century BOTTLE!

Hey guys,

Well...the toy cast version that is.

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Stef and I secured a turn of the century permission few weeks ago that finally had the waist high grass cut. Needless to say getting the coils low to the ground finally made the deep targets feasible. Curiously, within a few feet of the train toy plug, I pulled an interesting 2 piece button with "The Union News Co" depicted on the front. Props to Cannonballguy for the A M Button Co back mark information which revealed that they began making uniform buttons (military, railroad, etc) in 1901-1917.

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A bit of info on the Union News Co- The Union News Company was a subsidiary of the American News Company. They were in business from around 1890 until 1969. They sold newspapers, magazines, and sundries in train stations and on trains.A branch called the Union News Company existed solely to sell newspapers and magazines on the railroads, with 300 newsstands in railroad stations which by 1893 covered 40% of the entire US railroad system, paying $1000 a day for exclusive rights. Under this system Union News could keep the Chicago Tribune out of the Chicago area train stations until the Tribune agreed to their terms. In 1958 the FTC found that Union News was operating nearly a thousand newsstands around the country (the next largest operator had 57), putting Union News in a position to dictate terms and demand rebates from publishers.

The adjacent shoreline also produced a few goodies but the unexpected surprise was this 1900 era Coca Cola bottle and according to Gheenoe78 a valuable one. It took a few days in ACV to get the encrustations off, but its crazy that it survived intact in the surf for 100 years. I'm not a bottle guy, so any additional info is greatly appreciated.

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Among the other digs was a ornate D buckle and partial lip stick tube. Also turned up what I believe to be a self contained piston/cylinder...perhaps to an early engine?

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After switching sites I hit an ole faithful 19th century trash pit. No show stoppers but I did manage a thimble and 3 flat buttons. Also dug a large cast piece- copper alloy of some kind. Perhaps part of a carriage...:dontknow:

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As I am more into 18th century colonial relics, the last site definitely made my weekend. Targets we few and far between, but I did manage a killer rosette- favorite dig by far.

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Nearby I dug a much cruder leather boss of some kind and an early button. The backing is unlike any bit boss I've dug.

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All in all about 15 hours spent behind the Deus and CTX over the weekend...wouldn't have it any other way:laughing7:. As always thanks for looking

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Dug a TRAIN...Early 1700's Relics & Turn of the century BOTTLE!

So many good finds! I particularly like the Coca-Cola bottle, it bet it's on the rare side. It's cool with the beach-glass look to it! Could a Coca-Cola bottle make banner? If so I think it's this one. I'm going to research it and learn some info...
 

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Nice finds!! Really like that ole Coke bottle.
 

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Not bad man...good group of relics and that bottle has an awesome color to it

Thanks Dan, honestly didn't realize it had the deep purple color until I got it cleaned up. I had seen it on the shore a few weeks ago...just couldn't leave it behind this time.
 

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So many good finds! I particularly like the Coca-Cola bottle, it bet it's on the rare side. It's cool with the beach-glass look to it! Could a Coca-Cola bottle make banner? If so I think it's this one. I'm going to research it and learn some info...

Thanks J, any additional research is appreciated- I know anything early and coke can be collectible.
 

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The bottle is very cool. I'd be happy with that one. The large cast piece looks kind of like a carriage rein guide but they're normally threaded at the bottom. That rosette is another great relic. Congrats!
 

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The bottle is very cool. I'd be happy with that one. The large cast piece looks kind of like a carriage rein guide but they're normally threaded at the bottom. That rosette is another great relic. Congrats!

That was my initial thought as well, but haven't been able to find an exact match- 19th century?
 

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now______how you gonna top those relics-------AWESOME STUFF
 

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DUDE that bottle! I totally picked it up and put it back down. It will forever haunt me know. lol
 

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Crazy part is I definitely walked over it last week...glad she survived

I think I need to bring the back pack down there next time so i can keep the bottles I dig up.
 

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Manganese dioxide and UV can give you some really interesting shades of purple in glass given enough time, and being an early Coke bottle it's had plenty of time. Can't give you a firm date or even a range, but that early logo it has means it's pretty early, say 1900's or possibly the teens. Shame its a little sandblasted, but a nice find regardless.
 

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That was my initial thought as well, but haven't been able to find an exact match- 19th century?

I agree with Evolution's assessment. You may never find a exact match. That probably went to a much nicer ride than the simple ones most of us find. Either custom, or at least a uncommon design. How it would mount would be a mystery.
 

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The miniature toy train is pretty cool,, I'm thinking it isn't early Cracker Jack, or a Monopoly piece. Any lettering on it??
The Coca Cola Bottle may be a circa 1894 Hutchinson Stopper Bottle. It is among the very first type of bottles used to put Coca Cola into the hands of picnickers. Prior to that, Coca Cola was strictly a soda fountain only drink.
Congrats on an excellent hunt.
 

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I agree with Evolution's assessment. You may never find a exact match. That probably went to a much nicer ride than the simple ones most of us find. Either custom, or at least a uncommon design. How it would mount would be a mystery.

Thanks David that's the frustration and fun of post dig research
 

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The miniature toy train is pretty cool,, I'm thinking early Cracker Jack, maybe Monopoly piece. Any lettering on it??
The Coca Cola Bottle may be a circa 1894 Hutchinson Stopper Bottle. It is among the very first type of bottles used to put Coca Cola into the hands of picnickers. Prior to that, Coca Cola was strictly a soda fountain only drink.
Congrats on an excellent hunt.

Stamped on the inside of the cast train is SARO ...Y 333
 

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Dug a TRAIN...Early 1700's Relics & Turn of the century BOTTLE!

Yes, I'm pretty sure the bottle dates circa 1900, and is quite collectible. The Hutchinson style bottles of 1894-1902 are extremely rare and valuable. The style you have came right after the Hutchinson went out, with the new improved crown style cap. After going on a little interweb journey, I'm guessing your bottle is worth $150. I could be off, I'm not a bottle guy, but I can tell you I really like that bottle!
 

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Yes, I'm pretty sure the bottle dates circa 1900, and is quite collectible. The Hutchinson style bottles of 1894-1902 are extremely rare and valuable. The style you have came right after the Hutchinson went out, with the new improved crown style cap. After going on a little interweb journey, I'm guessing your bottle is worth $150. I could be off, I'm not a bottle guy, but I can tell you I really like that bottle!

Thanks for the leg work, definitely the earliest bottle I've picked up. This little piece of charleston however is staying in the mantle as it's one of the few relics my wife appreciates lol
 

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Thanks for the leg work, definitely the earliest bottle I've picked up. This little piece of charleston however is staying in the mantle as it's one of the few relics my wife appreciates lol

I bet it looks great on the mantle, and finding wife-approved relics is a rare occurrence haha!
 

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