early ABM?

[unclemac]

what are these? I dug them from under roots in the clay at my spot where directly next to them I have found bottles 100 years old or older. Clearly screw tops, seams run all the way up to the top, no markings anywhere, slightly purple with age, and very crude glass full of inclusions. Age? Contents? Examples?

 

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[NJKLAGT]

ABM ketchup. Let's see the bottom, unclemac, and a closer shot of the top maybe, from just above the lip

John

 

[unclemac]

here is the bottom

 

[unclemac]

here is the top

 

[NJKLAGT]

Nice, unclemac, I'd say this is an Owens-style bottle machine, c1920. A nice early machine-made ketchup! I have yet to find a ketchup worth keeping, try to find a cap that'll screw on there nicely and it'll look great on the shelf.

 

[unclemac]

since they are a bit purple anyway, should i nuke them for show?

 

[Mich. Wolverine]

I try only to keep blown bottles but I kept a few like yours. They did make blown screw top bottles. Here are a few blown ones that I found.

 

[NJKLAGT]

If you have the equipment to nuke it and you want more purple then go for it unclemac!

The good thing is that there are plenty of ketchup bottles out there, so nuking one won't do anything to impact colour diversity - that's the big controversy about it, that if everyone is taking their bottles and jars of varying colours and nuking them all deep purple, then we lose that diversity of colour, and the process is irreversible. If you had some super old or rare bottle it'd be a crime to nuke it, for sure, but this is okay.

I don't have anything against nuking bottles. I think that sometimes people can go a bit over the top with it, leaving them in the light for weeks, making these almost black-purple things, and always getting that same result. I suggest taking the bottle or jar out at the end of every day just to see how the colour is coming along, that way you can stop whenever you've arrived at the desired amount of purple. But heck, if you wanna go that dark, all the power to you, it does look awesome.

Actually you can nuke more modern bottles and jars as well. Many manufacturers started using selenium as an alternative to manganese, and when you nuke selenium glass you get different shades of brown, wheat, straw colours. It looks pretty cool.

 

[NJKLAGT]

THOSE are some nice ketchups, Mich. Wolverine. Dang..

 

[john glassman]

Those are some nice ketchup bottle's but we alway forgetting the top . I eye everthing heres top if anyone looking for one.

 

[Mich. Wolverine]

Nice cap here is one that I found and has a high lead content.

 

[unclemac]

nice job on those tops guys! for the life of me i couldn't figure out the contents..the size of a beer but all wrong they was.

 

[RelicDude]

I try only to keep blown bottles but I kept a few like yours. They did make blown screw top bottles. Here are a few blown ones that I found.

Woah the two in the middle are awesome. I would keep ketchup bottles if I found ones that look like that.