(Fake) El Cazador coins

[shafergdady1]

Im fairly sure the first half reale is a fake. Im also pretty sure the 8 reale second coin is genuine.

Any help would be awesome.

 

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[Diver_Down]

I've handled and conserved hundreds of Cazador coins. Neither of the two that you posted throw up any red flags. What makes you think the 1782 is fake?

 

[shafergdady1]

I never had any doubts until I went to have the 1782 set for a necklace , the jeweler said he was 100% sure it was fake and asked if I still wanted it set for a necklace for my girlfriend, he said one side was too thin and there was silver beyond the ridges , which he said made it a copy. I have no idea his experience with these coins and I know you guys know what your talking about.

 

[Diver_Down]

You have to understand that things were not perfect with milled coinage. The 1782 is struck off-center which accounts for the silver outside of the dentils. It was fairly well-protected in a stack with only a partial edge exposed to the elements. Some not so well protected clumps will produce what we call "razors" when conserved due to saltwater corrosion.

Note: earlier date and smaller denomination examples can carry a higher premium than the standard 1783 8R Cazador examples.

 

[shafergdady1]

Thanks so much for your evaluation. You have educated me well beyond what I expected.