Florida beaches ??

[masterofdisaster]

Ok i guess i dont get it..i have read that you can detect the beaches, but you cannot detect in the water.. due to some type of salvage rights or what not....the question is can we hunt in the water at daytona beach and the other beaches on the east side?? any input would be appreciated..

 

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[ron lord]

you can hunt on land or in the water on any beach in Fla.Salvage right on wreck in Fl. have changed.You can't hunt water in State or Fed. Pk.,but you can hunt the beaches.So have fun and welcome to my State Florida and home Ron Lord HH

 

[masterofdisaster]

thanks for clearing that up Ron, yepp cant wait until the 25th of march

 

[stevemc]

You cant (CANNOT) hunt in the water from Satelite Beach, to down South past Ft Pierce to the St Lucie Inlet at Stuart. Also North and South of Jupiter Inlet 1 mile. They are all a bunch of treasure leases and Admiralty areas. You will get arrested. They havent changed any laws about detecting in leases or admiralty areas. They fly airplanes and helicopters along that area several times a day. The county sheriffs will arrest you. Post this in the shipwreck area if you dont believe me. Or call the Brevard or Indian River County Sheriffs dept. about water detecting in lease areas.

 

[stevemc]

The rest of the state is fine, except for National parks, some state parks, and any historic preserve. The beach is fine in most places. Water most except as I noted.

 

[diggummup]

You cant (CANNOT) hunt in the water from Satelite Beach, to down South past Ft Pierce to the St Lucie Inlet at Stuart. Also North and South of Jupiter Inlet 1 mile. They are all a bunch of treasure leases and Admiralty areas. You will get arrested. They havent changed any laws about detecting in leases or admiralty areas. They fly airplanes and helicopters along that area several times a day. The county sheriffs will arrest you. Post this in the shipwreck area if you dont believe me. Or call the Brevard or Indian River County Sheriffs dept. about water detecting in lease areas.

Right on Steve, I figured Ron Lord would have known that.

 

[dewcon4414]

Just curious..... what the heck do you think is the reason you cant hunt in the water at a state park?

Dew

 

[ron lord]

All leases in Fl. have been changed . Leases can not run along the beaches any more . All leases start 1500 yard off shore . The state change the lease laws on salvage rights a few years ago. I will look for the law . Yhe last time it took me 3 days to find.`

 

[lookindown]

Ive always wondered how you are supposed to know you cant detect in the water at those places. Ive never seen a sign at those beach access saying no detecting in water. Ive never heard of anyone being arrested or even ticketed for it.

 

[stpauli914]

Heck, over half of the 1715 fleet wreck sites lay within 1500 yards of shore. If this is true, lets go, I've got a boat! But for some reason I feel it is just Ron tryin to get newbies arrested

Aaron

 

[ron lord]

Try this Fl Statutes 253.61,this should help alot of you out.

 

[biggmike]

Try this Fl Statutes 253.61,this should help alot of you out.

OK here it is. Let's figure this out cause I'm ready to hunt there NOW.....

253.61 Lands not subject to lease.—
(1) Regardless of anything to the contrary contained in this law in any previous section or part thereof, no board or agency mentioned therein or the state shall have the power or authority to sell, execute, or enter into any lease of the type covered by this law relating to any of the following lands, submerged or unsubmerged, except under the circumstances and conditions as hereinafter set out in this section, to wit:
(a) No lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold or executed covering such lands within the corporate limits of any municipality unless the governing authority of the municipality shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.
(b) No lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold or executed covering any such lands in the tidal waters of the state, abutting on or immediately adjacent to the corporate limits of a municipality or within 3 miles of such corporate limits extending from the line of mean high tide into such waters, unless the governing authority of the municipality shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.
(c) No lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold or executed covering such lands on any improved beach, located outside of an incorporated town or municipality, or covering such lands in the tidal waters of the state abutting on or immediately adjacent to any improved beach, or within 3 miles of an improved beach extending from the line of mean high tide into such tidal waters, unless the county commissioners of the county in which such beach is located shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.
(d) Without exception, after July 1, 1989, no lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold, or executed south of 26° north latitude off Florida’s west coast and south of 27° north latitude off Florida’s east coast, within the boundaries of Florida’s territorial seas as defined in 43 U.S.C. 1301. After July 31, 1990, no oil or natural gas lease shall be granted, sold, or executed covering lands located north of 26°00′00″ north latitude off Florida’s west coast to the western boundary of the state bordering Alabama as set forth in s. 1, Art. II of the State Constitution, or located north of 27°00′00″ north latitude off Florida’s east coast to the northern boundary of the state bordering Georgia as set forth in s. 1, Art. II of the State Constitution, within the boundaries of Florida’s territorial seas as defined in 43 U.S.C. 1301.
(2) For the purposes of this section and law an improved beach, situated outside of the corporate limits of any municipality or town, shall be and is hereby defined to be any beach adjacent to or abutting upon the tidal waters of the state and having not less than ten hotels, apartment buildings, residences or other structures, used for residential purposes, on or to any given miles of such beach.

Can anyone translate this into English??

 

[ron lord]

Hobe Sound is about 27 degree .

 

[lookindown]

Try this Fl Statutes 253.61,this should help alot of you out.

OK here it is. Let's figure this out cause I'm ready to hunt there NOW.....

253.61 Lands not subject to lease.—
(1) Regardless of anything to the contrary contained in this law in any previous section or part thereof, no board or agency mentioned therein or the state shall have the power or authority to sell, execute, or enter into any lease of the type covered by this law relating to any of the following lands, submerged or unsubmerged, except under the circumstances and conditions as hereinafter set out in this section, to wit:
(a) No lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold or executed covering such lands within the corporate limits of any municipality unless the governing authority of the municipality shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.
(b) No lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold or executed covering any such lands in the tidal waters of the state, abutting on or immediately adjacent to the corporate limits of a municipality or within 3 miles of such corporate limits extending from the line of mean high tide into such waters, unless the governing authority of the municipality shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.
(c) No lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold or executed covering such lands on any improved beach, located outside of an incorporated town or municipality, or covering such lands in the tidal waters of the state abutting on or immediately adjacent to any improved beach, or within 3 miles of an improved beach extending from the line of mean high tide into such tidal waters, unless the county commissioners of the county in which such beach is located shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.
(d) Without exception, after July 1, 1989, no lease of the type covered by this law shall be granted, sold, or executed south of 26° north latitude off Florida’s west coast and south of 27° north latitude off Florida’s east coast, within the boundaries of Florida’s territorial seas as defined in 43 U.S.C. 1301. After July 31, 1990, no oil or natural gas lease shall be granted, sold, or executed covering lands located north of 26°00′00″ north latitude off Florida’s west coast to the western boundary of the state bordering Alabama as set forth in s. 1, Art. II of the State Constitution, or located north of 27°00′00″ north latitude off Florida’s east coast to the northern boundary of the state bordering Georgia as set forth in s. 1, Art. II of the State Constitution, within the boundaries of Florida’s territorial seas as defined in 43 U.S.C. 1301.
(2) For the purposes of this section and law an improved beach, situated outside of the corporate limits of any municipality or town, shall be and is hereby defined to be any beach adjacent to or abutting upon the tidal waters of the state and having not less than ten hotels, apartment buildings, residences or other structures, used for residential purposes, on or to any given miles of such beach.

Can anyone translate this into English??

I only got half way through reading this and had to stop because my brain was hurting.

 

[diggummup]

All leases in Fl. have been changed . Leases can not run along the beaches any more . All leases start 1500 yard off shore . The state change the lease laws on salvage rights a few years ago. I will look for the law . Yhe last time it took me 3 days to find.`

I'd love to see that but I don't think it exists.

Try this Fl Statutes 253.61,this should help alot of you out.

This doesn't mean squat as it pertains to metal detecting on leased areas as evidenced by the noted words highlighted. Paragraph 1 the end of the sentence-
except under the circumstances and conditions as hereinafter set out in this section, to wit:
Also subsections B and C-

unless the governing authority of the municipality shall have first duly consented to the granting or sale of such lease by resolution.


It's common knowledge, these wreck sites are protected by admiralty claims and leases have been in place for years. U.S. Supreme Court ruled over this.

 

[Can Slaw]

If there is a statue changing water hunting, the Beach Patrol doesn't know about it. I just spent 3 weeks on the treasure coast and was told by a beach patrol officer, NO WATER HUNTING, dry sand only. I was told the same thing by the rangers at the Sebastian Inlet State Park, no water hunting all the way down to Vero Beach. If there has been a law change, those that enforce it aren't aware of it yet.

 

[ron lord]

The U S supreme Court ruling of 1985 state that who every is looken for a wreck is entitle to a % of a wreck reguardless who find it.

 

[stevemc]

To the original Poster, yes, you can detect at Daytona sand or water, and everywhere else, except the places noted above. No laws have changed.

 

[masterofdisaster]

thanks again for the info, from everyone....it will nice to get out in a pair of shorts...and detecting the surf..by the time i get home to michigan, we should have ice out and be able to detect around lake michigan....guess its time to buy some waterproof diving boots..

 

[Can Slaw]

I think Ron's "new law" is being COMPLETELY over turned. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,455258.0.html It looks like they are passing new legislation to enforce the antiquity laws even harder.