Found a "What is it?" today.
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larson1951
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
a side piece of an indian jack knife
a side piece of an indian jack knife
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
Larson,
Tounge depresser and ear wax remover.
The big one looks like the remains of a billet. Lots of dents and use. The small flattened one kind of looks like a bone wedge or spacer. It's an interesting piece though. Don't think I've ever found anything that shows that kind of use.
Here's a bone "whatever" I found that has stimmied me for years too.
Thanks for showing. Lone Star
Larson,
Tounge depresser and ear wax remover.
The big one looks like the remains of a billet. Lots of dents and use. The small flattened one kind of looks like a bone wedge or spacer. It's an interesting piece though. Don't think I've ever found anything that shows that kind of use.
Here's a bone "whatever" I found that has stimmied me for years too.
Thanks for showing. Lone Star
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T witko, Sorry I didn't see your handle at the post. I appologize to you for the misdirected rely. Lone Star
T witko, Sorry I didn't see your handle at the post. I appologize to you for the misdirected rely. Lone Star
flintdigger
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This one has me scratching my head
the bigger piece I agree is prob. is a billet 
, I am not sure about the smaller piece 
. Lone Star that piece is really a head scratcher for sure .
This one has me scratching my head
the bigger piece I agree is prob. is a billet , I am not sure about the smaller piece . Lone Star that piece is really a head scratcher for sure .
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Fellas, It just dawned on me. If you had an atlatl (or any hafted large tool like a spade or axe) and the weight (or blade ) was getting shaky from use, you could implement a spacer with additional hafting, to eliminate removal and re-setting the implement. Kind of a repair on the fly. When a modern hammer or axe gets loose from use , we do the same thing. Only now we use a metal wedge.
Just an idea. Lone Star
Fellas, It just dawned on me. If you had an atlatl (or any hafted large tool like a spade or axe) and the weight (or blade ) was getting shaky from use, you could implement a spacer with additional hafting, to eliminate removal and re-setting the implement. Kind of a repair on the fly. When a modern hammer or axe gets loose from use , we do the same thing. Only now we use a metal wedge.
Just an idea. Lone Star
joshuaream
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
Lone Star, from the picture yours looks like half of a pelvis from a small animal or something like that. It very well could have some work on it that altered the final shape. Here is a picture from a raccoon.
Lone Star, from the picture yours looks like half of a pelvis from a small animal or something like that. It very well could have some work on it that altered the final shape. Here is a picture from a raccoon.
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joshuaream
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
T Witko, no idea on your finds, but still cool pieces.
T Witko, no idea on your finds, but still cool pieces.
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Josh and friends, That weird bone came up from about 6-7 feet in the strata that had montells, and castrovilles. (Laguna, Tx. TAAA dig) I can't believe something that dainty survived in that soil enviornment. Bison ribs and bones didn't fair as well. Between the lime encrustation and the age, its a wonder. I still think it was an earwax tool !!!! Thanks Lone Star
Josh and friends, That weird bone came up from about 6-7 feet in the strata that had montells, and castrovilles. (Laguna, Tx. TAAA dig) I can't believe something that dainty survived in that soil enviornment. Bison ribs and bones didn't fair as well. Between the lime encrustation and the age, its a wonder. I still think it was an earwax tool !!!! Thanks Lone Star
joshuaream
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Some useless information, but I read a boring article one time on earwax and implications on how Asia and the new world were settled in paleo times.
East Asians (Japanese, some Chinese, and Koreans) have dry powdery earwax as did most Native American groups. The rest of the world has wet earwax (if q-tips work, you have wet wax.)
There is a single gene that affects the type of wax, and it is a mutation that dates back around 35,000 years. It is older than the gene combination that creates the epicanthic fold (Asian eyes.) The basic theory of the paper was that if you lined up the dates of the earwax gene, the dates when the land bridge was open, and the date the epicanthic fold (asian eyes) gene combination became dominant, you might be able to say that they had to come over during this land bridge (eg Be able to say they had to come across 30,000 years ago because it's the only combination that had an open bridge, had dry wax, and not yet have epicanthic folds.) It turned out that later research pegged the eye fold to be surprisingly recent, so it left too many possibilities.
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Some useless information, but I read a boring article one time on earwax and implications on how Asia and the new world were settled in paleo times.
East Asians (Japanese, some Chinese, and Koreans) have dry powdery earwax as did most Native American groups. The rest of the world has wet earwax (if q-tips work, you have wet wax.)
There is a single gene that affects the type of wax, and it is a mutation that dates back around 35,000 years. It is older than the gene combination that creates the epicanthic fold (Asian eyes.) The basic theory of the paper was that if you lined up the dates of the earwax gene, the dates when the land bridge was open, and the date the epicanthic fold (asian eyes) gene combination became dominant, you might be able to say that they had to come over during this land bridge (eg Be able to say they had to come across 30,000 years ago because it's the only combination that had an open bridge, had dry wax, and not yet have epicanthic folds.) It turned out that later research pegged the eye fold to be surprisingly recent, so it left too many possibilities.
uniface
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
Your long bone with the groove is most likely a side knife handle ; the chert biface in the picture with it (with the one straight side) might have fit into it.
It is not a billet, for the simple reason that antler billets are a twentieth-century supposition that has essentially no support in the archaeological record.
http://www.antlerdrift.blogspot.com/
Cheers & Regards
Your long bone with the groove is most likely a side knife handle ; the chert biface in the picture with it (with the one straight side) might have fit into it.
It is not a billet, for the simple reason that antler billets are a twentieth-century supposition that has essentially no support in the archaeological record.
http://www.antlerdrift.blogspot.com/
Cheers & Regards
WhiteCountyPaleo
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
The small bone tool might be a trap trigger? I think
there is more of a specific name for them.
-chad-
The small bone tool might be a trap trigger? I think
there is more of a specific name for them.
-chad-
moah4me
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
The small one with the notch is definitely a trigger to a deadfall trap no idea on the other stuff great findds keep up the good work
Moah
The small one with the notch is definitely a trigger to a deadfall trap no idea on the other stuff great findds keep up the good work
Moah
wilycreek
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Re: Found a "What is it?" today.
I think the small polished piece with a notch might be a toggle. Many indians carried a cup or noggin by use of a toggle in the belt. This would also explain the amount of polish.
I think the small polished piece with a notch might be a toggle. Many indians carried a cup or noggin by use of a toggle in the belt. This would also explain the amount of polish.
