ryker_salazar
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Need help identifying these marks
Found some silver at thrift store
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Can you see the picture??
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Beachkid23
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Those are awesome. I'm not sure of the Hallmark but if I were you I would look under the Scottish hallmarks seeing that that's a Celtic look. I think.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like the letters after the 'WM & S' could be 'EP' for electroplated, meaning the candlesticks are not sterling. Some plated wares command a high price however, but it may take a little more research to determine the potential resale value of those candle holders. I would imagine they could bring a decent sum considering the unique design.
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What does the number beneath the marks mean?
trdhrdr007
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I agree with SDIceMan on the marks. I believe the numbers are a model/pattern designation.
cb73
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There's a mark registered for William Manton & Son, out of Birmingham, England and for William Mammat & Son (or Mammatt, I'm seeing it both ways) out of Sheffield, England.
I'm not seeing this piece anywhere--I'm seeing very few pieces for either of them.
Here is a William Mammatt & Son butter knife that seems to have the same mark and is going for 34 euros. LATE C19th WILLIAM MAMMATT & SONS SHEFFIELD BUTTER KNIFE | eBay
I'm not seeing this piece anywhere--I'm seeing very few pieces for either of them.
Here is a William Mammatt & Son butter knife that seems to have the same mark and is going for 34 euros. LATE C19th WILLIAM MAMMATT & SONS SHEFFIELD BUTTER KNIFE | eBay
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NaturalJWL
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I have bought lots and lots of stuff on just instinct and lost, but I had very little invested.....I did learn, which was worth a whole lot.....I also have spent $10 on flatware that was close to $700 in silver.....So why not take a chance, might not win every time but who does.....
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The EP is definitely electro plated. They are nice pieces but not sterling. The number is a pattern reference. If they were sterling, they would have other hallmarks.
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Thank you all for the help
Red-Coat
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Just doing a bit of tidying up on some older threads, mainly for the benefit of anyone searching the site for information.
Yes, that’s a silver plate mark, not a hallmark. There are several possibilities for a ‘W.M’ mark, but that one with the gothic ‘E’ and ‘P’ (for Electro-Plate) is generally attributed to William Marples & Sons of Sheffield.
Founded in 1828 by William Marples, it became “William Marples & Sons” in 1860 when Edwin Henry Marples and William Kent Marples joined their father’s business and continued under that name (later becoming “Ltd”) until purchased by W. Ridgeway and Sons and C. and J. Hampton in 1962.
Yes, that’s a silver plate mark, not a hallmark. There are several possibilities for a ‘W.M’ mark, but that one with the gothic ‘E’ and ‘P’ (for Electro-Plate) is generally attributed to William Marples & Sons of Sheffield.
Founded in 1828 by William Marples, it became “William Marples & Sons” in 1860 when Edwin Henry Marples and William Kent Marples joined their father’s business and continued under that name (later becoming “Ltd”) until purchased by W. Ridgeway and Sons and C. and J. Hampton in 1962.
