OK thanks John , I have there new buyer's guide and saw what coils was for what detectors . I thought i would get lucky and some one would say yes they will . But i did not luck out… so i will have to get a 5x8 .. for the AT.. i keep selling my Garretts then keep buying them again ……… could be i should keep one this time…I have been using Garretts since the early 80's i guess i just can not go with out a Garrett in my stable...