Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by The British Museum!!

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UPDATE- After exchanging emails with The British Museum for a second opinion, they were able to date the ring by the maker's mark "1G" The maker was John Greene I, active goldsmith 1630-1663. Here is the confirmation info for anyone interested.. (click on the photo to enlarge the mark) Also, if you look at the writing on the inscription of the ring in this link, it looks strikingly familiar :thumbsup:

http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...on_database/museum_no__provenance_search.aspx


This started Saturday 5/22 at a CW campsite my partner and I had been hunting for the last month or so.. Up until that morning, nothing colonial had been found. The 1640 copper was the first of these finds to be recovered and never thought I could find anything that would compare. Then Monday, I obtained permission at the adjacent property and started out finding a few CW buttons and bullets.. About 2 hours into the hunt I got a signal bouncing between 68-72. Five inches below was the 1666 Spanish Cob (potosi mint, pillars and waves.. the 66 of 1666 is upside down and can be seen on the side with the cross).. No more than 2 hours later I was tired of wandering around and decided to head back to the area where the cob came from. On my way, I got a weak mid 40's signal that was only hitting in one direction. No more than 6 inches down was the posy ring. Fast forward to Wednesday.. My partner (Sentinel) took me to one of his honey holes.. The first find was the 1773 VA halfpenny. The signal was horrible, hitting mid 50's and iron in the opposite direction. As the day was coming to an end, I got a signal that was in the range of a 3 ringer, maybe a couple numbers higher.. I was pretty happy to see a silver disc come out of the hole. After walking over to show Josh what I thought was a Spanish milled reale, we soon realized that it was something much different. It turned out to be a 1697 King William III shilling.


Here are some new pics from last 3 hunts, showing the reverses as well.. and the pictures of the inscription, the halfpenny I left as seen in the last photo below
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the god
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of peace
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our love
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increase
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the copper on the left side of the pic is a 1773 VA halfpenny which was the only year they were minted (in London) and roughly 600,000 total
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Re: 1640 copper, 1666 silver, 1697 silver, 1773 copper, 1705-1712 Gold posy ring

umrgolf2010 said:
shaun7 said:
CMDiamonddawg said:
umrgolf2010 said:
CMDiamonddawg said:
Most respectable finds , all back to back . The ring is beyond, fantastic / coins , fantastic . Most can only dream of finds like these & can only be accomplished by hard work and effort , above and beyond the norm. Thanks for this thread & for being a friend J dawg

Thank you Dawg, emailed some photos of the ring to a British museum and so far after a few emails they believe the ring is 17th century and seem to be shocked at where it was recovered, so the 1705-1712 date is close but it might be a bit older :icon_thumleft: (they are still researching though)
British Museum :o Man ,you don't fool around ! :D The ring is a stellar find , probably once in a lifetime ,unless you travel across the pond. You are fortunate :thumbsup: , there was an old settlement south of my location that was a whaling village ,complete with a town hall ,numerous homes ,stores, a tavern etc. in the mid 1600's till 1790's . It was called, Portsmouth . Unfortunately, :( it is now under the Delaware Bay, a half mile off the beach . I search the area after storms but only found a 1740 KG. Great :icon_pirat: that you have such a historical area to play around in . Jersey still has its share of old stuff, but it takes much research . Speaking of research ,I think it may go back to the Jamestown early colonial days ,maybe Smitty's ring . :icon_pirat: CMDdawg



Probably a once in a lifetime find over here too!

Thank you Shaun.. I'm told by the director of antiquities, this is indeed the find of a lifetime.. As far as the date, two people in the department agreed roughly 1680-1710 . Was 95% sure it was colonial before, just wanted to see what they thought :icon_thumleft:

Scratch that :thumbsup:
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

Yes, that is one beautiful and rare piece of history! Its earlier than we first thought also...by about 50 years.....that thing was probably in the ground for a good hundred years before the Revolutionary War! Awesome Digs :headbang: :headbang: :wink:
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

Well done mate :icon_thumleft:. Nice update and even better find.

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

That belongs to the Queen then :laughing9:
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

shaun7 said:
That belongs to the Queen then :laughing9:

Who? Freddy? ;D.

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

Nice! That banner is rolling like a freight train lately! Must be Spring!
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

Congrats on the Banner!!! took confirmation to put it over the top :icon_scratch: , 350 + year old , 24 kt poesy ring , finally gets up there :thumbsup:
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

That is a great confirmation from the British Museum it even makes the Poesy ring more special Great find :thumbsup: Dd60
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

Simply amazing!! Breathtaking.
 

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Re: Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by British Museum!!

Congrats on the ring. Nice coins also.
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Its about time this got on the banner !! :o :headbang:

Great hunting !! :icon_thumleft:

Keep @ it and HH !! :D ;D
 

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Sorry i thought that i posted on this but scrolling through i didn't see it , congrats on the banner great find!!! HH CHUG!!!
 

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Congrats golf thats a awsome find :icon_thumleft:
 

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Good to get a firm date & the banner at last :icon_thumright:
 

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There you go Jeff. Up on top where you belong and a confirmed date. :icon_thumright: Congrats buddy.
 

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Those are absolutely the most amazing finds Golf!!!! Do you have any idea
what the ring is valued at ? It has to be worth far more than the current gold
value just for the fact that it can be traced back to the 1600's and the jeweler who made it :icon_thumright:

Absolutely awesome man !!
 

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