Heart Shaped 1/2 Real Cob ID?

[SouthJerseyJim]

Pulled this little guy up yesterday. Found in a NJ farm field. It looks almost heartshaped. Has a few distinguishable features, was hoping someone could make a positive ID or date. I believe it may be 1650-1700. Thanks, Jim

 

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[Rookster]

Sorry, but it a great find. Congrats

 

[Diver_Down]

Can you scan the piece? I've blown it up and I see a date, but would like a higher resolution to confirm.

 

[SouthJerseyJim]

I can try Diver. Give me a bit.

 

[SouthJerseyJim]

Best I can do until I get home Diver.

 

[Diver_Down]

That will do. Do you have a weight in grams?

 

[Diver_Down]

166x Potosi 1 Reale Assayer Antonio de Ergueta. Lima was on hiatus during that decade and it is obvious not a Mexico City piece.

 

[SouthJerseyJim]

Thank you so much. Did not think there was enough to get an ID. That is interesting shape. Almost thought it was one of those special heart shaped specialty rare ones for a min.

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Sweet find!

 

[SouthJerseyJim]

Diver, just weighed it. 1.5 grams

 

[Diver_Down]

Diver, just weighed it. 1.5 grams

Very underweight for a 1 Reale. Some can be explained due to the wear, but it had to have been trimmed post-mint. It would be just the right weight for a a 1/2 reale. But there are design elements that were only on 1, 2, 4, 8 reales. The 1/2 reale used a monogram.

 

[SouthJerseyJim]

Thanks Diver.

 

[toasted]

Very underweight for a 1 Reale. Some can be explained due to the wear, but it had to have been trimmed post-mint. It would be just the right weight for a a 1/2 reale. But there are design elements that were only on 1, 2, 4, 8 reales. The 1/2 reale used a monogram.

Looks like a monogram style half real to me. I see nothing that resembles pillars and wave design on that one. Doesnt look clipped either just worn. You must have a much better eye for them than me. What design elements are you seeing? I do have several pillar and wave cobs that were clipped/cut to half real size though. I even have a monogram style half real that was cut to 1/4 real size

 

[Diver_Down]

I tried to download and save the one picture to draw/highlight what I see. But for whatever reason, the file (even though it is a *.jpg) would not open and it said it was unsupported. I with I could provide visual indicators, but it is what it is. I already stated that the weight is more in line to what a worn 1/2 reale is. But my eye sees the vestige of the one right pillar with the scroll at the top indicating a pattern that was not used on the monogram 1/2 reales. I could be wrong in what I'm seeing. What I'm not wrong on is the date/mint/assayer. The dispute seems to be whether it is 1/2 reale or 1 reale.

 

[bradyboy]

I know im gonna get ripped for this
BUT - the image, to me, looks casted.
sorry if I my have offended any one, not my intention
Brady

 

[Ken C]

Very nice! Congrats!

 

[Mackaydon]

In my (limited) experience, I don't see clipped coins almost perfectly rounded. Nor do I see 1R coins (with that much detail) weighing that light (unless fake; and I don't think this one is a fake). So I lean towards the 1/2 real.
Don....

 

[A2coins]

Good I'd Don that's a sweet coin