Help? Ship Wreck Google Earth

[Marco Marco]

I have been observing for about six months now. I have gotten alot out of the site. I came across this while on google earth. I used a vehicle at the same height to measure the ship. It is approx. 150 long. I check the USCG charts and it has been sounded by them and marked as an obstruction. What I need is some information on the restrictions that are on the charts they send me to the legend but then that sends me somewhere else. The wreck is off the coast of a National SeaShore Area and Federal Land. I know it has not been check out from the beach because the area can not be accessed. I would like to dive the wreck from the water approach but don't want to be arrested. are there any Laws that prevent me from diving the wreck if i approach it from the water. Also can any one make out weather the hull is metal are wood.

Thank You

 

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[Mackaydon]

Marco:
First, Welcome to Treasure Net !!
Personally, I'd simply call the appropriate National Seashore Area authority and ask them.
What do you have to lose?
Each has their own website.
Don........

 

[Marco Marco]

Don
Hey Thanks Bro. I will do that and let ya know what they said.

Marco

 

[Marco Marco]

Update
Contacted the National Seashore Folks and even though the USCG charts show the area a National Seashore they said it was not, but was under the control of the DOD. Oh Great Trying to get a answer out of them will prolly take a few years. But I will try any who.

Marco

 

[Mackaydon]

I wonder if NASP has something to do with DOD jurisdiction if we're talking your area??

 

[Marco Marco]

Don

Not necessarily my area. But I did serve 10 years active duty. So I am familiar with the DOD. I did contact NASP as a starting point just because I can actually drive and talk to them face to face. The guy I am suppose to talk to is gone for the day. So I will have to contact him in a day or two.

 

[inletsurf]

I have been observing for about six months now. I have gotten alot out of the site. I came across this while on google earth. I used a vehicle at the same height to measure the ship. It is approx. 150 long. I check the USCG charts and it has been sounded by them and marked as an obstruction. What I need is some information on the restrictions that are on the charts they send me to the legend but then that sends me somewhere else. The wreck is off the coast of a National SeaShore Area and Federal Land. I know it has not been check out from the beach because the area can not be accessed. I would like to dive the wreck from the water approach but don't want to be arrested. are there any Laws that prevent me from diving the wreck if i approach it from the water. Also can any one make out weather the hull is metal are wood.

Thank You

I know exactly where that is, I cannot see any reason why you cannot approach it from the water. It is a DOD owned wildlife management area, and I'm not so sure that you cannot access it by foot, either, but I'll take your word for it. There is a forum member who will know everything about it, I'll pm you his name. PS, there's another one, about a mile east of there, much smaller but obvious...its in front of an obvious landmark.

 

[Hangingfor8]

Ah the santa rosa island wreck

 

[cuzcosquirrel]

Yeah just go ask the park if they will let you dive it or not. Be up front about it. I think there is a metal hulled steamer they let people dive on if they want at a national seashore in California.

 

[sphillips]

Not to change the subject, but how do you paste a Google Earth image?

 

[mad4wrecks]

I just hit the "print screen" button on my keyboard, paste the image into the 'Paint' program and save it as a .jpg file

 

[sphillips]

Thanks for that!

 

[pcolaboy]

I posted the pic of this wreck a couple of years ago. Since it is directly offshore from the restricted Eglin AFB tracking station, I sent a couple of letters to the command responsible for base security.

I was told in no uncertain terms that if I approached the area within 500 feet from shore, I would risk seizure of my vessel, arrest, and a hefty fine. The funny thing is that I have cobia-fished directly off the beach from this site without a problem many times over the years (prior to 9-11).

There are some other cool inshore wrecks I know of in Pensacola Bay if you ever want to check them out.

Pcolaboy

 

[RELICDUDE07]

Nice find! They did find a 1652 cannon in the perdido key area close to you !

 

[Marco Marco]

Update:
I spoke to the DOD today. They told me there were no reasons why I could not dive the site. They said that in fact the DOD only owns the beach down to the High Median Tide. They said that they do have authority to restrict the area for special purposes such as certain training events. They said that this is rarley done, but when they do they post vessels in the area to keep civilians out of the area. they even mentioned to me about how they see all the boats fishing in the area. Thank you guys for all the responses. Now knowing all that I would still get some type of memorandum from them giving me their go ahead.

 

[Marco Marco]

I did not know about that find. I am aware of the Pensacola Bay wrecks, and the one they are working in Black Water River. In fact my brother was on a dive team back in the mid 80's when they started diving the bay wrecks. I would love more info on the find in the Perdido Key area.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

They have the cannon and a very few artifacts from it at the T.T.wentworth downtown........

 

[Marco Marco]

Wow I have not been to the T.T. Wentworth since it moved to the Down Town Location. You know wentworth opened that on Old Palafox Street in his home and just continued to add on. I will have to get down town and check it out. Thanks.

 

[pcolaboy]

I strongly suggest getting something in writing about diving the wreck off the tracking site. It was 2 years ago that I received the warning about coming within 500 feet from the shoreline.

If you want a dive buddy to go along - just let me know! I have a Brownie Hookah rig available that will support 3 divers. Since we're talking only 3-4 feet of depth, it'll be just a matter of how long you want to be in the water.

Here's a link to my original post that has my favorite angle shot of the wreck.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,118889.msg1311950.html#msg1311950

 

[Marco Marco]

Hey Thanks for the dive buddy invite. Yea after looking at the charts I figure the deepest point would be around 5 feet. What is known about this Wreck. Does any one have any info on it. Just curious. Yea and I would for sure get something in writing.

Marco