Help with ID

[rls2040]

Hesse four points were all found in Gwinnett County Ga. The third from the right is the only one that is biface,possibly a Pickwick? The other three are uniface,the two quartz ones have very little edge work,thick with high median ridge on all three,the other one has much more edge work and large serrations on blade,very thick with a very high median ridge, I would love to get any info on these. Thanks,Carl

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[GatorBoy]

I'd say your probably right with Pickwick on that one..the other two points look like Morrow Mountains to me.. the last piece looks like a knife.
I think the two stemmed quartz pieces are crude and worn but not unifaced.

 

[rock]

Im near Cherokee county. All of yours look very nice.

 

[monsterrack]

Nice finds

 

[rls2040]

I agree the last one most likely was a knife,very poor material but there is more edge work on the curved side,straight side has a little edge work near base,curved blade is beveled on both sides,bases is ground but looks like stem was broken off,must have been a hastily made tool because it is really poor choice to work with.The other two.one is quartz and it is perfectly flat on one side,no evidence of any work on that side,in Overstreet 8th edition it looks a lot like first pic ,what little flaking that can be seen could be Archaic parallel. Looks like Morrow Mt. Is right. The other one is flint or chert,median ridge is 7/16 more or less high,large serrations on both sides that wrap around to the back , rest of the back appears to be naturally flat,Morrow Mountains description says thin,this one is not thin.Flaking looks Archaic but I am certainly not a expert,so any other advice on this one would be greatly appreciated. Going to post a close up pic after I finish this....Best Wishes,Carl

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[rock]

You might already have this site but in case you dont. I use it cause it is directed to our area. You can bookmark it if you like. Hope it helps, rock
Peach State Archaeological Society

 

[rls2040]

Pics of flint point

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[GatorBoy]

There are a few types of morrow mountain points..and when made of low quality material by no means are all of them thin.
You called that flint point a Pickwick in the first post..why do you think you were wrong?

 

[rock]

Most of the MM that I find are made from quartz and they arent thin at all.

 

[GatorBoy]

Pickwick

 

[rls2040]

I am a member,fairly new member of PSA, it never crossed my mind to go to that site,duh,my bad,thanks for reminding me, I am using it now and it is very very helpful, Thanks, Carl

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[rls2040]

I was thinking the quartz one next to the knife might be a Pickwick because it is shaped right is beveled on opposite sides, I am not sure about flint one. carl

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[rls2040]

I have more Morrow Mt.'s than any other but they are predominately Quartz, Gwinnett County,Ga.

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[GatorBoy]

I was thinking the quartz one next to the knife might be a Pickwick because it is shaped right is beveled on opposite sides, I am not sure about flint one. carl

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Your chert point is a Pickwick is all I'm trying to say.
Happy hunting.

 

[rls2040]

Here are some Pickwicks,,one on right end is rough,nor sure on it,the on below the other 4 is the one I thought might be a Pickwick on earlier pics

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[rls2040]

Oh now I get it,sorry I didn't get that before, thank you for being patient and so very helpful..Best Wishes

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[GatorBoy]

I thought you were asking ... if you have your mind made up there is not much anyone can do.
Ahhh.. We were posting at the same time just now.
Best of luck to you.

 

[GatorBoy]

Both of the contracting stemmed points in your last photo are Morrow Mountains not Pickwick's

 

[rls2040]

Dang I got a lot to learn,been collecting them for years but just lately have started identifying them, I am using ,or was,Overstreet 8 th edition , been told I should maybe use another book ! I am having a hard time with"all points with same name don't look exactly alike" so sometimes,hell maybe lots of times, I think the subtle differences between two points is just one of those subtle or maybe more than subtle differences when the difference is what makes the two totally different points. I work on it a lot and I am way better than when I started .When Overstreet book says something like, stem can be concave,convex or straight, that doesn't help much....You have been very helpful, thank you ....Carl

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[GatorBoy]

One thing that helps is judging the probable possibilities by what other points they are normally associated with and getting a feel for the site itself.