Holed LC, buttons and rose heads.

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I had Monday off and decided last minute to get out for a bit before I had to do chores at home. Instead of sifting, I decided to take my new Minelab GPX4500 with me. That thing is a beast, however you have to be prepared to dig nails. Deep nails sound so sweet, but the shallow ones are easy to determine. Anyway, 20 nails in I opened a plug, removed two nails and the GPX kept telling me there was more. I popped a chunk out of the sidewall and the holed LC came out. I'm pretty certain I opened the plug because of the nails and unmasked the LC by mistake... but who cares, I'll take it! This is in an area I have hammered many times with many machines. I switch over to the Deus after a couple hours to give myself a bit of a break. The pewter buttons and various other items turned up with the Deus.

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This is actually my first holed coin! It fooled me for a minute when I pulled it from the dirt because for a split second I thought the hole was a missing shank. There's a hunk of crud obscuring the last part of the date. I'm more excited that it has a hole in it than just being a regular toasty copper.

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This .32 rimfire Henry shell casing was a nice surprise. This caliber was introduced in 1860 by Smith and Wesson and at this site, it was probably fired during the Civil War era. I don't pay much attention to shell casing typically, but when I see the "H" I always save them. The small iron buckle above it has some silver plating left on it.

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This piece of an iron shoe buckle turned up. During electrolysis I noticed that it had an "applied pewter" front on it. I recently preserved a complete iron frame for Scrappy and his also had an applied pewter front.

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I got really excited about the cast pewter with the design on it.... when it came from the dirt I could swear I saw a bust on it, but since it was in such rough shape, I packed it in dirt and waited until I got home. Turned out to be flowers! Still better than the other cast pewter I got, which turned out to be plain.

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I had found another piece to the brass item in the same area. I thought it was a buckle frame piece, but I'm starting to think it might go to something else.

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The nails and other zapped iron items going into hot wax to seal them after preservation.

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Thanks for looking and Happy Hunting everyone!
 

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Congratulations on your first holed LC, and the other relics. Did it feel weird not to be sifting? Also, did you heat the wax with a Coleman stove?
 

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Excellent relic hunt, congratulations! :occasion14:
 

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Well done sir. I like the Henry casing... I don't see many of those.

Congrats brother.
 

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Congratulations on your first holed LC, and the other relics. Did it feel weird not to be sifting? Also, did you heat the wax with a Coleman stove?

Thanks Glenn! Actually I didn't specify this because it wasnt worth mentioning, but the Henry casing and tack head came from that sifting trip last week that I mentioned to you "was the worst hunt I've had in years" haha Because the dirt was so wet and because of that horrible hunt, I opted to bring the GPX and leave the sifter. So it felt weird not sifting, but I was happy I didn't get skunked. I actually opened some HUGE plugs on monday and tossed around the dirt and thats how I got the pewters and all the rose heads. It was basically like a couple test holes and I will be returning to sift them.

Excellent relic hunt, congratulations! :occasion14:

Thanks Professor! I was very surprised at the toasty copper and it was a welcome sight.

Well done sir. I like the Henry casing... I don't see many of those.

Congrats brother.

Thanks Tom! I really like those Henry casings too... I'm an avid shooter and have a bit of a collection... so I really appreciate firearms history. The Volcanic\Henry\Winchester ties are fascinating. Connecticut during the mid 1800's was like the firearms Silicon Valley of inventions and breakthroughs in firearms technology. :laughing7:
 

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I like it all but I am a big fan of those nails you are diggin, I have an interesting article that I have saved from a 1991 Treasure mag about those S&W rimfires and their probability odds of CV usage.

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Looks like a fun hunt! Congrats. Always nice to hear how new machines work. Thanks for sharing. -Lisa & John
 

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Congrats on some nice finds

Thanks Art!

I like it all but I am a big fan of those nails you are diggin, I have an interesting article that I have saved from a 1991 Treasure mag about those S&W rimfires and their probability odds of CV usage.

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Awesome article villagenut! I read it and saved it off to my computer... definitely adding that to my reference folder. Really glad you like the nails... I do as well. I got into a spot on Monday that was producing complete rose heads with minimal oxidation. Those always look great after tumbling for 24 hours or so. Here's a better picture of the nicer rose heads from the original post. Its funny, but most of these went into my "keeper container" because I didn't want to misplace\lose them while I was hunting. I have (not kidding) 1000's of preserved nails from this site that I will do something with one day and when I do, I'll share some pictures on here.

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Looks like a fun hunt! Congrats. Always nice to hear how new machines work. Thanks for sharing. -Lisa & John

Thank you Lisa! Fun and a lot of work at the same time. Since I know you and John are a bit new to the hobby I'll explain what the 'new machine' is. Typically we hunt with Very Low Frequency (VLF) machines... which is pretty much what everyone uses. The GPX series is a Pulse machine which uses a totally different type of technology in regards to the waves it sends into the ground. They are primarily used for Gold Prospecting in highly mineralized ground. However with patience and a big shovel, you can use them for relic hunting too. :laughing7:
 

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Fun finds, and instructive as always. I think you might have dug some track from an early choo choo set!
 

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I heard somewhere down the line that old LC's holed in the middle like that got used as washers, (IDK, just one of those things I heard)
Nice stuff Brad, keep digging!
 

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I'm quite impressed to see what you dug after hearing how many times you've hammered that site. That GPX is some machine. I can't wait to check one out in a week brother.

Great digs Brad!
 

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Outstanding digs Brad, glad to see the new GPX producing the goods. That flower pewter would have certainly made me hold my breath. Looks like a return trip with the sifter is in order

Thanks Jon! Since I was so sure I saw a bust on it, I was a little let down when I got home and got it cleaned up and sealed in glue. But still... a flower is better than just a blank one. I have a ton of sifting left at that place for sure.

Fun finds, and instructive as always. I think you might have dug some track from an early choo choo set!

Thanks Ken! Ha... it does look like train track. It looks like its lead filled on the back too. Typically I have no idea what half the stuff I find is anyway!

I heard somewhere down the line that old LC's holed in the middle like that got used as washers, (IDK, just one of those things I heard)
Nice stuff Brad, keep digging!

Thanks Brad! You know, when I saw the hole was in the center, the first thing I thought of was that maybe it was a washer. Since its so crusty, its more of a relic than a coin, so I think the hole makes it much better.

I'm quite impressed to see what you dug after hearing how many times you've hammered that site. That GPX is some machine. I can't wait to check one out in a week brother.

Great digs Brad!

Thanks man! It is never ending. I have proven the "Behind the Mask" article\experiment at this site in the last year and a half Dankowski Detectors - Masking Experiment If I stopped when the easy signals were all gone, I wouldn't have half the stuff I have now and I wouldn't have some of the best stuff I've recovered.
 

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With the LC being holed it may have been a wick adjuster. I found one made from a seated dime last year
 

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Hang in there Brad, with some time you will be able to tell even the deep nail signals..... they might not "break " like the shallow ones but they will warble, squeal, and sometimes simply be long one way but short she swinging in a different direction. The difference is subtle, but noticeable.

Congrats on the LC. It's almost hard to believe this is your first with a hole in it. Seems like I'm always finding them with the hole.
 

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Thank you sutphin!

With the LC being holed it may have been a wick adjuster. I found one made from a seated dime last year

Thank you civil_war22! Could very well be... it appears to have been for a purpose.

Hang in there Brad, with some time you will be able to tell even the deep nail signals..... they might not "break " like the shallow ones but they will warble, squeal, and sometimes simply be long one way but short she swinging in a different direction. The difference is subtle, but noticeable.

Congrats on the LC. It's almost hard to believe this is your first with a hole in it. Seems like I'm always finding them with the hole.

Thanks a ton Keith! I know the wobble and the blank... but so many others sound so great. ha I really want to find the rest of the trigger guard I've been digging there... it should be about a 1/2" by 5" piece of brass. So those short and long signals I'll probably keep digging. I don't mind it one bit and the machine is awesome. I knew going in that I'd be digging iron, and its no different than what I typically do at this place with the Deus... dig nails until I unmask something!


Thank you Casper!
 

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