Finally got out after snow has been washed away by rains and frozen ground thawed a little, i finally hit the woods and found and old lock. Not sure how old it is , but old. Thanks for looking/
Can confirm. Went out in central LI yesterday and it was the shortest hunt I've ever had. Three minutes of chipping at a mid-tone signal, followed by the realization I'd rather save my wrists and knees for when the ground is soft again.