jasper scrapers

larson1951 · Feb 3, 2013

a new member (ward) sent me a PM and was asking about jasper scrapers
here's a few
i hope someone else has a few
i bet old digger man from montana has some colorful ones he would be so kind to post
also i know that TWitco has some good ones.......right kelly?

bsit1361 · Feb 3, 2013

So we have jasper here as well. I guess it's found all over. I've got points of it but no scrapers I can think of.

larson1951 · Feb 3, 2013

bsit1361 said:
So we have jasper here as well. I guess it's found all over. I've got points of it but no scrapers I can think of.

a few jasper, KRF and one quartzite scraper

i think i have only one jasper arrow point

i would like to see your points though
post them here if you are able

old digger · Feb 3, 2013

I have pretty much given away most of my good jasper pieces. But here are a few.

Allen Point (red/yellow jasper)

Thumb Scraper (yellow jasper)

pickaway · Feb 3, 2013

Find some red and yellow jasper in Ohio but its rare.

wardcheney · Feb 4, 2013

(The first post of this just up and disappeared. Not sure what I did wrong. Maybe someone else is scratching his/her head.) Nice photograph, Steve, neat collection of scrapers. I clicked on the photo and the bigger image has a lot of good detail. All of them are fine to look at. There's one in particular that jumped out. The X formed by two crossed diagonal rows . . . from center scraper, row going toward top right corner of the frame . . . third scraper in that row, counting from the center scraper . . . darkest color. There's very nice polish on that one.

I'm surprised you find so many. Is your area known for camps? Any bison kill sites in the area?

There's something wonderful about scrapers.

larson1951 · Feb 4, 2013

larson1951 said:
a few jasper, KRF and one quartzite scraper

i think i have only one jasper arrow point

i would like to see your points though
post them here if you are able

this is the image that i forgot to post on my post #3....the yellow one on the top left is the older style
these scrapers with the graver spurs on the right and left corners of the working edge are older than the scrapers with the rounded leading edge

larson1951 · Feb 4, 2013

wardcheney said:
(The first post of this just up and disappeared. Not sure what I did wrong. Maybe someone else is scratching his/her head.) Nice photograph, Steve, neat collection of scrapers. I clicked on the photo and the bigger image has a lot of good detail. All of them are fine to look at. There's one in particular that jumped out. The X formed by two crossed diagonal rows . . . from center scraper, row going toward top right corner of the frame . . . third scraper in that row, counting from the center scraper . . . darkest color. There's very nice polish on that one.

I'm surprised you find so many. Is your area known for camps? Any bison kill sites in the area?

There's something wonderful about scrapers.

thanks ward
i find these on a 30+ acre site that i have been taking care of since 1986
my friend owns the site and twitko helps run a tractor with me and puts a lot of time and fuel to help me
it is not hard to find 5 scrapers in 30 minutes
i remember about 15 years ago we had so many and they were so prolific that we stopped picking them up unless they were really nice examples
i don't know where there are any buffalo jumps around
this site is easily ove 5000 years old as we find pelican lake, duncan, hanna, etc styles as well as others

larson1951 · Feb 4, 2013

another frame with a few jasper, but also agate, KRF, pet wood, chert etc for your perusal

hope you like

wardcheney · Feb 4, 2013

Six years ago I'd never heard of a scraper or graver. Never heard of KRF, Trout Creek jasper. Just beautiful. In Massachusetts, not a single source of stone this quality.

It's probably not just me . . . I suspect people who use tools a lot naturally connect with things like these scrapers. Gotta respect those folks five-, ten-thousand-years ago.

Charl · Feb 4, 2013

My wife and I have found our share of jasper in RI. It was long felt that our jasper came from Pa., but in the 90's, prehistoric workings were found in northern RI, where gold and brown colored jasper visually indistinguishable from Pa. Jasper has long been known and collected by mineral hunters. It's known as Limerock jasper, after a nearby location and limestone quarry that has been in operation since the 1640's. Pa.jasper was imported here, but the brown and gold shades are just as likely Limerock jasper, used in Paleo times and into Woodland. They did not waste jasper here. Seems like every flake I find of jasper has been retouched or is a flake tool or utilized flake.

Charl · Feb 4, 2013

wardcheney said:
Six years ago I'd never heard of a scraper or graver. Never heard of KRF, Trout Creek jasper. Just beautiful. In Massachusetts, not a single source of stone this quality.

It's probably not just me . . . I suspect people who use tools a lot naturally connect with things like these scrapers. Gotta respect those folks five-, ten-thousand-years ago.

Welcome to he forum, wardcheney. Jasper is rare, but not that rare to find, in Ma. Most probably was sourced in Pa., but the Limerock jasper workings were used as early as Paleo times, and was located in northeast RI, right on the border with Ma.

larson1951 · Feb 4, 2013

Charl said:
My wife and I have found our share of jasper in RI. It was long felt that our jasper came from Pa., but in the 90's, prehistoric workings were found in northern RI, where gold and brown colored jasper visually indistinguishable from Pa. Jasper has long been known and collected by mineral hunters. It's known as Limerock jasper, after a nearby location and limestone quarry that has been in operation since the 1640's. Pa.jasper was imported here, but the brown and gold shades are just as likely Limerock jasper, used in Paleo times and into Woodland. They did not waste jasper here. Seems like every flake I find of jasper has been retouched or is a flake tool or utilized flake.

Charl said:
Welcome to he forum, wardcheney. Jasper is rare, but not that rare to find, in Ma. Most probably was sourced in Pa., but the Limerock jasper workings were used as early as Paleo times, and was located in northeast RI, right on the border with Ma.

hey charl thanks much
the center image reminds me of one of the colors of jasper we find in north dakota ,south dakota, and like old dennis the digger man finds in west central montana

rock · Feb 4, 2013

Those are some nice looking scrapers rite there.

theviking · Feb 4, 2013

Nice looking Jasper guys. Welcome to the forum, wardcheney, here are a few examples from the Old Dominion. Hope you enjoy.

flintdigger · Feb 4, 2013

Great artifacts, love those scrapers. Keep posting & I'll keep lookin.

Tnmountains · Feb 4, 2013

That Jasper looks like peanut butter and honey. Very nice. I am always pleased to find a good thumb scraper. They are the most under rated tool out there. Frame up nice. What a show,,,,,

larson1951 · Feb 5, 2013

Tnmountains said:
That Jasper looks like peanut butter and honey. Very nice. I am always pleased to find a good thumb scraper. They are the most under rated tool out there. Frame up nice. What a show,,,,,

found this cache about a month ago