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I was doing research on Jessie James/J. Frank Dalton and came across this posting...
KGC-Rebel Underground-Jesse James
June 09, 2000 at 10:38:01
In response to all the questions about goings on we attended down in Granbury,TX last week. If we are permitted to use this forum as a means of answering all of those inquiries at one time. Here follows the story leading up to the opening of the Granbury Grave, marked with a tombstone which reads Jesse W. James, as we know it.. The Jesse James controversy is a heated debate between those who believe Jesse was killed in St. Joseph, MO in April 1882 and those who prescribe to the theory that Jesse faked his death and lived on for another 65 years under various assumed names-one of which was J. Frank Dalton. The body, of J. Frank Dalton, buried under the name of Jesse James in Granbury Cemetery in August 1951 was exhumed last week in order to obtain DNA samples to test against the same DNA that was used to test the remains from the other grave marked Jesse James in Kearny, MO in 1995. Bud Hardcastle of Purcell, OK and men who believe they are Grandson's of Jesse Woodson James, won a hard fought legal battle to have the grave in Granbury opened in hopes of proving Jesse James was buried there. Where all of this began is a story within itself. Years ago Hardcastle became interested in Jesse James due to claims that the outlaw and his gang hid out in Southwestern OK. In his research Bud discovered substantial physical proof that the Oklahoma legends were true. Eventually other Researchers/Historian/Treasure Hunters interested in the James Gang's rumored buried treasure joined Bud and they began to exchange research data. Research turned up several books written by authors who knew J. Frank Dalton personally and were convinced the old outlaw was in fact who he claimed to be, Jesse James! Documents were discovered that linked Jesse James to a secret Confederate Organization named the Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC). In the 1960-1980 era many magazine and newspaper articles claimed the KGC was an Underground Rebel Army. The die-hard Confederates preyed on Yankee owned banks, express companies, stagelines, railroads and mining operations. The proceeds from the outlawry and embezzlements during the period after the War Between the States until around 1916 was to hoard gold, silver, jewels, guns, food, and all types of supplies so they would be available for another war expected to commence within fifty years and with two new generations of Southern soldiers. Research has turned up many documents which prove to some extent that the KGC or another Secret Society existed after the war and that they did, in fact, bury lots of treasure. Several old maps from the organization have turned up and some of them have led to buried treasure. The largest of which was announced in the Daily Oklahoman in September 1995. The map used to find a "safe full of gold" was discovered by the same Bud Hardcastle mentioned previously. Bud gave a friend a copy of the map with the understanding that he would receive one-half of all treasure found with it. Bud's friend, with no idea of how the map worked, in turn gave a copy of the map to a Pro TH'er in Arkansas. The cut would be the same between the latter two partners, which meant that the "Friend" had now sold himself completely out of the deal. The Arkansas contact being able to read most treasure maps, signs and symbols, finally deciphered Bud's map, but not knowing it was Bud's map at that time, shared the maps location with the "friend" and required him to obtain permission from the ranch owner so they could attempt a recovery. Instead, the "friend" trespassed on the ranch and was given enough information to luckily find the safe of gold which was buried only about 30 yards from the Chisholm Trail only 18" deep. After the newspaper article about the find appeared. Bud and the map reader went immediately to the place the gold was supposed to be buried and found the hole "friend" had dug. Still in the sand, which had not even been rained on since the recovery, were pieces of rusty steel from the box. Recently (three-four issues back)Lost Treasure printed a blip from this treasure hunter saying he found the treasure by locating three boulders in the bank along side the Chisholm Trail. The three boulders were the clue on the map that showed where the treasure lay. The only thing the "friend" didn't know that although the treasure he got was worth a fortune, near that cache lay another worth many times the one he got. The second consisted of 5400 pounds of gold ingots and large cans full of jewelry, coins and maps to other KGC treasures. The large triangular stone map having directions to the second stash is now in the yard of the Arkansas TH'er. So that is the story of the opening of the Granbury Grave…Bud and the James family are out to prove that J. Frank Dalton was Jesse James. The treasure aspect does not enter into the DNA testing. Whether Dalton was Jesse James or not will make little difference to those seeking Rebel Treasure. However, if the tests do turn out that is the case. It should generate more interest in the KGC treasures for one very important reason. That being, much of the information concerning the KGC and the Rebel treasure originated with and from J. Frank Dalton. Many treasure maps can be directly traced to Dalton and some were drawn by his hand. Also rock carvings unearthed in OK, after being buried for nearly a hundred years have the names JESSE JAMES and J. FRANK DALTON carved within two inches of each other, upside down over one another. This KGC symbolism means- Either name is the same person no matter how you look at it. A famous quotation says "The truth sometimes escapes ever being known, because it so unbelievable" Truer words have never been spoken when to comes to the KGC . HBBB Ouachita Treasure Consulting
My question is has anyone heard of this and have confirmation that this safe was indeed found? Any information regarding the second treasure?
KGC-Rebel Underground-Jesse James
June 09, 2000 at 10:38:01
In response to all the questions about goings on we attended down in Granbury,TX last week. If we are permitted to use this forum as a means of answering all of those inquiries at one time. Here follows the story leading up to the opening of the Granbury Grave, marked with a tombstone which reads Jesse W. James, as we know it.. The Jesse James controversy is a heated debate between those who believe Jesse was killed in St. Joseph, MO in April 1882 and those who prescribe to the theory that Jesse faked his death and lived on for another 65 years under various assumed names-one of which was J. Frank Dalton. The body, of J. Frank Dalton, buried under the name of Jesse James in Granbury Cemetery in August 1951 was exhumed last week in order to obtain DNA samples to test against the same DNA that was used to test the remains from the other grave marked Jesse James in Kearny, MO in 1995. Bud Hardcastle of Purcell, OK and men who believe they are Grandson's of Jesse Woodson James, won a hard fought legal battle to have the grave in Granbury opened in hopes of proving Jesse James was buried there. Where all of this began is a story within itself. Years ago Hardcastle became interested in Jesse James due to claims that the outlaw and his gang hid out in Southwestern OK. In his research Bud discovered substantial physical proof that the Oklahoma legends were true. Eventually other Researchers/Historian/Treasure Hunters interested in the James Gang's rumored buried treasure joined Bud and they began to exchange research data. Research turned up several books written by authors who knew J. Frank Dalton personally and were convinced the old outlaw was in fact who he claimed to be, Jesse James! Documents were discovered that linked Jesse James to a secret Confederate Organization named the Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC). In the 1960-1980 era many magazine and newspaper articles claimed the KGC was an Underground Rebel Army. The die-hard Confederates preyed on Yankee owned banks, express companies, stagelines, railroads and mining operations. The proceeds from the outlawry and embezzlements during the period after the War Between the States until around 1916 was to hoard gold, silver, jewels, guns, food, and all types of supplies so they would be available for another war expected to commence within fifty years and with two new generations of Southern soldiers. Research has turned up many documents which prove to some extent that the KGC or another Secret Society existed after the war and that they did, in fact, bury lots of treasure. Several old maps from the organization have turned up and some of them have led to buried treasure. The largest of which was announced in the Daily Oklahoman in September 1995. The map used to find a "safe full of gold" was discovered by the same Bud Hardcastle mentioned previously. Bud gave a friend a copy of the map with the understanding that he would receive one-half of all treasure found with it. Bud's friend, with no idea of how the map worked, in turn gave a copy of the map to a Pro TH'er in Arkansas. The cut would be the same between the latter two partners, which meant that the "Friend" had now sold himself completely out of the deal. The Arkansas contact being able to read most treasure maps, signs and symbols, finally deciphered Bud's map, but not knowing it was Bud's map at that time, shared the maps location with the "friend" and required him to obtain permission from the ranch owner so they could attempt a recovery. Instead, the "friend" trespassed on the ranch and was given enough information to luckily find the safe of gold which was buried only about 30 yards from the Chisholm Trail only 18" deep. After the newspaper article about the find appeared. Bud and the map reader went immediately to the place the gold was supposed to be buried and found the hole "friend" had dug. Still in the sand, which had not even been rained on since the recovery, were pieces of rusty steel from the box. Recently (three-four issues back)Lost Treasure printed a blip from this treasure hunter saying he found the treasure by locating three boulders in the bank along side the Chisholm Trail. The three boulders were the clue on the map that showed where the treasure lay. The only thing the "friend" didn't know that although the treasure he got was worth a fortune, near that cache lay another worth many times the one he got. The second consisted of 5400 pounds of gold ingots and large cans full of jewelry, coins and maps to other KGC treasures. The large triangular stone map having directions to the second stash is now in the yard of the Arkansas TH'er. So that is the story of the opening of the Granbury Grave…Bud and the James family are out to prove that J. Frank Dalton was Jesse James. The treasure aspect does not enter into the DNA testing. Whether Dalton was Jesse James or not will make little difference to those seeking Rebel Treasure. However, if the tests do turn out that is the case. It should generate more interest in the KGC treasures for one very important reason. That being, much of the information concerning the KGC and the Rebel treasure originated with and from J. Frank Dalton. Many treasure maps can be directly traced to Dalton and some were drawn by his hand. Also rock carvings unearthed in OK, after being buried for nearly a hundred years have the names JESSE JAMES and J. FRANK DALTON carved within two inches of each other, upside down over one another. This KGC symbolism means- Either name is the same person no matter how you look at it. A famous quotation says "The truth sometimes escapes ever being known, because it so unbelievable" Truer words have never been spoken when to comes to the KGC . HBBB Ouachita Treasure Consulting
My question is has anyone heard of this and have confirmation that this safe was indeed found? Any information regarding the second treasure?
