King George counterfeit? Calling all experts

[relic lover]

I found this yesterday. Steve from PA turned me on to the idea that it is most likely counterfeit. I was wondering if anyone knows whether it is a cast copy or a pressed version. Would it have been made in England or in America? I have included pictures before and after some light cleaning. I have done a lot of comparing to pictures on the internet and now I am even more confused. If anyone knows about these things please shed some light for me. I am interested in anyone's opinion. Anyway it does not appear cast whenever I look at it in hand. The parts that are not corroded seem quite smooth. One thing I have noticed is that the date is 1772 and the top of the 2 has a rather distinctive round open look to it I actually thought it was 1770 at first.

 

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[PaddyB]

It is difficult to be sure with al that wear. I think probably not cast copy, so 3 alternatives possible:

1. A Regal British halfpenny made in Britain. Detail does not look up Royal Mint standards, but with all the wear not certain.
2. A British Copy - possible.
3. An American copy - normally termed an Evasion. Possible - my book does not list a 1772 version of these, but I have only UK books.

The accurate weight may help - most copies are under weight to the original.

You might want to post this to the Cointalk forum where there are several US based experts on Evasion coins.

 

[Iron Patch]

Almost certainly a struck coin as cast George III are very uncommon, and from Britain as other than Machin's Mills there's only a handful that are thought to have been made in America. There's always a good chance these can be counterfeit, but it's close enough to genuine there's really no added interest if it is, at least to those who collect them.

 

[Iron Patch]

It is difficult to be sure with al that wear. I think probably not cast copy, so 3 alternatives possible:

1. A Regal British halfpenny made in Britain. Detail does not look up Royal Mint standards, but with all the wear not certain.
2. A British Copy - possible.
3. An American copy - normally termed an Evasion. Possible - my book does not list a 1772 version of these, but I have only UK books.

The accurate weight may help - most copies are under weight to the original.

You might want to post this to the Cointalk forum where there are several US based experts on Evasion coins.

Evasion is terminology used for British counterfeits and not American.

 

[relic lover]

Thanks for the info guys