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The bottle says “ Listerine Lambert Pharmacal Company” and at the bottom it is a diamond with the number 500 in the center. I understand that this is Illinois Glass Co. and I’m led to believe the number 500 is the catalog number. I am having a difficult time finding the exact year for this bottle and any help is appreciated. Found in Sierra Nevadas, California. Thanks.
 

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pepperj

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Blackfoot is right if my memory is correct. I've found a few of them digging a turn of the century pit. Always fun to find cork top bottles.
Looks like a applied lip, though it seems that in the 1906 catalog they were still doing special lip application.
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I found one for sale at $30.99.
The description says it is circa 1910-1920. I don’t know if they are correct, but it sounds about right for the style.

Good bottle.

I would broadly agree with that dating. As per the info from @pepperj you can’t date branded/bespoke Owens bottles from the mould number since they aren’t listed in Ownes catalogues. Generic bottles perhaps, but not those which are customer-specific. There are other clues though.

In 1885, Dr Joseph Lawrence sold his share in the Listerine business to his partner and co-inventor Jordan Wheat Lambert, who then went on to form the Lambert Pharmacal Company. The earliest registration of ‘Listerine’ as a liquid antiseptic under the Lambert Pharmacal name is 1902 (granted 1903), but note that the sloping part of the ‘N’ doesn’t reach to the bottom of the right limb for the mark that was registered:

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There was a further registration in 1905 with the style of ‘N’ as seen on your bottle, but with the word underlined:

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The first registration with that style of ‘N’ and no underlining was filed on 30th January 1911 and granted 30th January 1912.

The illustrated “packer lip” (as per the Owens catalogue) was replaced from around 1920 onwards with a threaded top to take a metal screw cap.
 

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"The illustrated “packer lip” (as per the Owens catalogue) was replaced from around 1920 onwards with a threaded top to take a metal screw cap."
Interesting that this happened in and around 1920-which many bottles went to screw cap (machine made)
Though out of the 1906 cat. there was the jars with screw caps
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"The illustrated “packer lip” (as per the Owens catalogue) was replaced from around 1920 onwards with a threaded top to take a metal screw cap."
Interesting that this happened in and around 1920-which many bottles went to screw cap (machine made)
Though out of the 1906 cat. there was the jars with screw caps

Yes, it's not that screw caps first appeared around 1920... but that they progressively replaced cork closures to the extent that screw caps became the norm around that time.
 

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Now I gotta look at mine again. I don't recall mine having any writing near the base. I have too many hobbies and too many bottles.
 

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