YoungBlood
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I'm pretty sure I know what this is but want to be sure before it goes in the collection. Is this a triple L Ball mason jar? The third L is not ground down. If anyone needs more info just say so.
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gleaner1 said:
I thought that at first but look at the small details like how the lines get thicker on mine and are strait on the pic. But I'll keep what you said in mind.
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Ground Down, what do you mean by that
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epackage said:Ground Down, what do you mean by that
On a batch of Ball mason jars there was a third L they recalled most of them and fixed them by grinding off the third L then resold them.
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Ummmmmmmm No they did not...
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Most jars with rough ground tops were made before 1900. The ground lip resulted when the glassmaker ground the top to eliminate the "blow-over." The blow-over was a gob of glass at the top of a jar that the glassblower used to attach a blow pipe when the jar was blown by hand into a mold. The blow-overs were removed and the top was then ground flat.
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Really, do you know why they ground the L off of some then
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They NEVER ground the L off of any of them....
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YoungBlood, there was never a triple L. Nobody ever ground down anything, except the mouth. I need more info. I'm just saying so.
I have dug MASON's with the N reversed, but that has nothing to do with anything. Except the fact that Ball had so many molds going that small variations on the main designs must surely be known. Yours is the one circled. Regards to you.
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epackage said:
That's weird I've heard of it so many times. It must just be a rumor or something. No wonder no one new what I was talking about at the flee market. lol
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There ya Go!! Molds were changed as you can see by the chart shown, I wanted you to get to the conclusion on your own, imagine trying to get people to send back a perfectly good jar because there was a loop in the end that some people call a 3rd 'L' and grinding it down and polishing the glass smooth again and then reselling those jars... Not very feasible to say the least
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Boy do I feel dumb!!!
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YoungBlood, I been studying bottles for 42 years and I dont know squat and only half of what many others do so I am a big dummy too, don't sweat it. By the way, a backwards N Mason jar aint worth squat, and your bottle is not rare. But it appears to be a very nice one, very clean, attic condition, worthy of any good jar collection.
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Don't feel dumb, it's a learning process and over time you'll get to know a ton of stuff you never even would have considered. I learn two or three new tidbits of info a day just by spending time on bottle forums, Googling things I want to know about and asking questions. It's an education that you don't have to pay for, just keep on seeking knowledge, asking questions and always keep your eyes and ears open... We all started out at the beginning, and now you know the truth about these jars...
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The worst part is I paid the guy $20 for the one jar and then he told me he'd of given me all for $30. My negotiating skills went out the window because I've been looking for this "rumor jar" for a long time, but the main reason is because he asked me what it was so I told him the whole rumor. Because he was a friend I couldn't lie to him, not that I'd lie to a stranger but I would probably OFFER less but tell them what it's worth.
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I'd not heard this one before now, but the "third 'L'" notion seems to be a good example of "collector myth" which penetrates the hobby from time to time. Other examples are "wood bottle mold" and "refired pontil scar." Humans have a need to fill in gaps of knowledge, even if they have to erect improbable stories. And, let's face it . . . people love a good story.
BTW Ground lip Mason jars were blown in semi-automatic bottle-making machines. No gaffer was involved.
BTW Ground lip Mason jars were blown in semi-automatic bottle-making machines. No gaffer was involved.
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"BTW Ground lip Mason jars were blown is semi-automatic bottle-making machines. No gaffer was involved". Harry, I never knew that!
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not infallible? no! say it ain't so!!Check me on it, 'gleaner1' . . . I'm pretty sure, but not infallible.
