mding and the BLM ( California )

[pegleglooker]

hey gang,
I'm just wanting to be sure, is it or is it not ok to md on BLM land. This would be in Riverside or Imperial Counties.... Please let me know whenever you can..and does anyone have the reg that says its ok

Thankx
PLL

 

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[Yellow Hammer]

John,
I will give you a call sunday and tell you where you can hunt on BLM land. And yes you can MD on BLM land.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

I do it, and no one's ever said anything to me And if someone did take issue, "I'm looking for the boyscout ring my dad lost here when he was a kid", right?

It's mostly so so remote, that no one would probably even see you, to care, to begin with. Naturally I wouldn't whip out a detector in front of a bunch of archies at a BLM convention. Not because I think it needs permission, or because I think I'm doing anything wrong, but I simply don't want to "find out otherwise", to begin with. Like picking your nose: if you ask someone if you can do it, they'll tell you "no". But if you're discreet, odds are, no one really cares if you pick your nose.

 

[pegleglooker]

Like picking your nose: if you ask someone if you can do it, they'll tell you "no". But if you're discreet, odds are, no one really cares if you pick your nose.

Ok...... That's just WRONG !!!!! but true....

Thankx guys, I'm thinking about hitting a pretty desolate area and I was pretty sure that I can, but I wanted to be sure....

hey... Yellowhammer I found something the other day that I thought you might like.....Tabaseca means is a Indian term meaning " where the yellowhammer nests "
Thought you might like it......

PLL

 

[Ant]

You can MD on BLM for gold, meteors or other metals. As for collecting relics older than 50 years old is a no-no, coins included. The Antiquities Act of 1906 states relics over 100 years, but the BLM rule is 50 years.

People started collecting all the old mining relics so they made it 50 year instead of 100 years as is some other Government/Public land. You know the obvious, stay away from historical sites and leave Indian relics in there place, report any substantial find to BLM.

You can read the jest of the BLM regulation at this link: http://www.nv.blm.gov/carson/Minerals/Geology/collecting.htm

 

[pegleglooker]

hey Ant,
Thankx for the info but, I noticed the link is for Carson City.... So does the same rule apply for California ??

Thx
PLL

 

[Ant]

I believe the law is from this link, it cover all Fed Land:
Archaeological Resources Preservation Act 1979, and the Secretary of Agriculture's regulations.
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/iac/metal_detecting.html
Palm Springs BLM:

Metal detecting is a recreational activity that people do to find coins, jewelry, and precious metals. Metal detecting is allowed on BLM lands as long as no artifacts are removed. Artifacts should be left alone and reported to the appropriate Field Office. Avoid all cultural and archeological sites. The Metal Detecting enthusiast may remove some rocks (handful) from areas such as picnic areas, campground areas, and recreational sites. The enthusiasts may remove some rocks as long as there not being removed from another mining claim. Mining claims can be researched on the LR2000 (http://www.blm.gov/lr2000). Enthusiasts are only allowed to make minimal surface disturbance (i.e. removing a couple of stones for memories).
If you have any questions regarding your activities, then please contact the appropriate Field Office for authorization.

http://www.wwats.org/modules.php?op...e=article&sid=963&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Metal detectors are sometimes used to look for historic artifacts. Historic artifacts are protected on all federal and state lands. Metal detectors are strictly prohibited in all National Parks (and all areas managed by the NPS), National Wildlife Refuges, and State Parks. Metal detectors may be used on public lands managed by the US Forest Service and the BLM, but may not be used in or around historic sites, archaeological sites, or other areas as posted, or to look for historic artifacts. Typically, public use of metal detectors is ok in campgrounds and picnic areas to look for lost coins, jewelry, or other recent items. But you must remember, all items over 50 years old are protected under federal (and state) law and cannot be removed from their original sites. There are many Treasure Magazines and books that fail to mention that taking artifacts from public lands is against the law (and has been for nearly 100 years). Most people enjoy using metal detectors at public beaches where they can find lots of recently lost coins.

Quote from Barstow BLM:

Metal detecting is a recreational activity that people do to find coins, jewelry, and precious metals. Metal detecting is allowed on BLM lands as long as no artifacts are removed. Artifacts should be left alone and reported to the appropriate Field Office. Avoid all cultural and archeological sites. The Metal Detecting enthusiast may remove some rocks (handful) from areas such as picnic areas, campground areas, and recreational sites. The enthusiasts may remove some rocks as long as there not being removed from another mining claim. Mining claims can be researched on the LR2000 (http://www.blm.gov/lr2000). Enthusiasts are only allowed to make minimal surface disturbance (i.e. removing a couple of stones for memories).
If you have any questions regarding your activities, then please contact the appropriate Field Office for authorization.

http://arizonaoutback.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7207

http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/prescott/recreation/propect.shtml

The use of a metal detector to locate objects of historic or archaeological value is permissible subject to the provisions of the Antiquities Act of 1906, the Archaeological Resources Preservation Act 1979, and the Secretary of Agriculture's regulations.

http://www.nps.gov/history/local-law/FHPL_ArchRsrcsProt.pdf

 

[pegleglooker]

Hey Ant,
Thankx for the update.... I think I'll print this up and keep a copy with me... Just in case

Thankx
PLL