birdman
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27"
Fantastic dig! Sure hope you can track down the family!
Fantastic dig! Sure hope you can track down the family!
🏆 HONORABLE MENTION MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *RETURNED*
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Papa Bear
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27"
Looks like its a dead end on the MIA website. I have other resources though.
On the MDing on base. The Archaeological Resources Protection Act of 1979 ( http://www.fws.gov/fire/ifcc/esr/Po...ological_Resources_Protection_Act_of_1979.pdf) does not cover coins. It has to be a "archaeological resource".
I have had MP's inform me about rings lost at the beach. Plus no one can find a base order on it. I have MD'ed the old PX site and general parking lot at Onslow Beach, under the bleachers at the Liveredge Field running track and the baseball field dugouts on WPT Field. So if all I am looking for is coins, I see no harm..
Looks like its a dead end on the MIA website. I have other resources though.
On the MDing on base. The Archaeological Resources Protection Act of 1979 ( http://www.fws.gov/fire/ifcc/esr/Po...ological_Resources_Protection_Act_of_1979.pdf) does not cover coins. It has to be a "archaeological resource".
I have had MP's inform me about rings lost at the beach. Plus no one can find a base order on it. I have MD'ed the old PX site and general parking lot at Onslow Beach, under the bleachers at the Liveredge Field running track and the baseball field dugouts on WPT Field. So if all I am looking for is coins, I see no harm..
highnam
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27"
Cool find...always thought it would be neat to find a name on a piece of history that could be returned to the family to which it belongs. Hope you get a contact.
Cool find...always thought it would be neat to find a name on a piece of history that could be returned to the family to which it belongs. Hope you get a contact.
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27"
I am hitting the geneology websites. If he had any children they would be a few years old than me. In reality hi grandchildren and even great grandchildren would be out there somewhere. I will keep you all posted. I have returned items found in auctions before so this will be no different.
I am hitting the geneology websites. If he had any children they would be a few years old than me. In reality hi grandchildren and even great grandchildren would be out there somewhere. I will keep you all posted. I have returned items found in auctions before so this will be no different.
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I am learning more about the base history. I have found a website for NC MD'ers that showed protected/eligible areas. I have come close to one area and will stay off base from now on.
Here is the website: http://gis.ncdcr.gov/hpoweb/
Maysville and areas north would be good. Let me know if you head up there and I will tag along.
PB
I am learning more about the base history. I have found a website for NC MD'ers that showed protected/eligible areas. I have come close to one area and will stay off base from now on.
Here is the website: http://gis.ncdcr.gov/hpoweb/
Maysville and areas north would be good. Let me know if you head up there and I will tag along.
PB
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Papa Bear
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Just some follow up that I have found on http://www.miafacts.org
To quote the website:
In April 1990 a U.S. team in Vietnam located a crash site with
material consistent with that of an A-1E, but no personal artifacts
were found. Local witnesses were unable to provide any
information. A U.S. team located information in the records of
People's Army Military Region 4 indicating that a U.S. pilot died
in a crash on the date. The place and time correlated to Tatum's
loss incident, but the pilot's name was not available.
Just some follow up that I have found on http://www.miafacts.org
To quote the website:
In April 1990 a U.S. team in Vietnam located a crash site with
material consistent with that of an A-1E, but no personal artifacts
were found. Local witnesses were unable to provide any
information. A U.S. team located information in the records of
People's Army Military Region 4 indicating that a U.S. pilot died
in a crash on the date. The place and time correlated to Tatum's
loss incident, but the pilot's name was not available.
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27"
Fantastic find !!!!!
Fantastic find !!!!!
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Papa Bear
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
Okay I may be making headway:
http://www.vvmf.org/thewall/Wall_Id_No=51093
I have an email into the Dr listed...
Okay I may be making headway:
http://www.vvmf.org/thewall/Wall_Id_No=51093
I have an email into the Dr listed...
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Papa Bear
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
Okay, I have hit a brick wall. It would appear I am too late to contact the Dr:
http://www.pitt-johnstown.pitt.edu/30928/
Anyone out there from Chattanooga, TN?
Okay, I have hit a brick wall. It would appear I am too late to contact the Dr:
http://www.pitt-johnstown.pitt.edu/30928/
Anyone out there from Chattanooga, TN?
milk86
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
http://www.vvmf.org/thewall/anClip=280223 this says he was a classmate..might be able get something??
http://www.vvmf.org/thewall/anClip=280223 this says he was a classmate..might be able get something??
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
Here is a link with the story of his final mission. It says he bailed out.
http://www.angelfire.com/id2/Silas/pow-mia/tennessee/mia5.html
Good post. I remember POW bracelets when I was a kid but I never owned/wore one.
I found another post on the POW site from a woman near Syracuse who wore a Lawrence B. Tatum POW bracelet in the 60's. She posted in 2006 also looking for family.
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Here is a link with the story of his final mission. It says he bailed out.
http://www.angelfire.com/id2/Silas/pow-mia/tennessee/mia5.html
Good post. I remember POW bracelets when I was a kid but I never owned/wore one.
I found another post on the POW site from a woman near Syracuse who wore a Lawrence B. Tatum POW bracelet in the 60's. She posted in 2006 also looking for family.
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great find
great find
bcinbucks
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Great find and great post. Thanks for sharing.
Great find and great post. Thanks for sharing.
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Papa Bear
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
I tried that one too. Came back as a bad email address.
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I tried that one too. Came back as a bad email address.
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
Would not his military papers like insurence list who got the money incase he was killed ?is there no way to see a copy his paperwork, I am ignorent of this type of hunting
there should be papers fom his home town that would tell when he was declared dead, might tell of family members. just a thought
Would not his military papers like insurence list who got the money incase he was killed ?is there no way to see a copy his paperwork, I am ignorent of this type of hunting
there should be papers fom his home town that would tell when he was declared dead, might tell of family members. just a thought
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Papa Bear
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update*
I am going to contact the USMA tomorrow. I am sure his parents are long gone, but maybe he had a sister. I have not given up.
I am going to contact the USMA tomorrow. I am sure his parents are long gone, but maybe he had a sister. I have not given up.
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Papa Bear
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update* Contact with daughter made
I have an update. I got an email today from Col Tatum's daughter and just got off the phone with her. She saw my posting on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund website. She was 8 when he went overseas and 9 when he was listed MIA. The amazing thing is that she lives about 2 1/2 hours from me right here in NC!! Right now I am looking at driving up there Friday after work to give her the MIA bracelet. I will keep you all posted!
I have an update. I got an email today from Col Tatum's daughter and just got off the phone with her. She saw my posting on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund website. She was 8 when he went overseas and 9 when he was listed MIA. The amazing thing is that she lives about 2 1/2 hours from me right here in NC!! Right now I am looking at driving up there Friday after work to give her the MIA bracelet. I will keep you all posted!
birdman
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update* Contact with daughter made
PB you are the man!
Fantastic thing you are doing.
PB you are the man!
Fantastic thing you are doing.
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update* Contact with daughter made
Great story. Keep us informed. I grew up on base in Camp Lejeune and Cherry Point in the late 60's and early 70's, and everybody wore POW Bracelets back then. My dad did two tours in Vietnam Nam as well as most of my class mates father's. This story brings back memories close to home.
Great story. Keep us informed. I grew up on base in Camp Lejeune and Cherry Point in the late 60's and early 70's, and everybody wore POW Bracelets back then. My dad did two tours in Vietnam Nam as well as most of my class mates father's. This story brings back memories close to home.
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Re: MIA Bracelet "Hobo 27" *Update* Contact with daughter made
Thanks BM! Good luck hunting in SC.
birdman said:PB you are the man!
Thanks BM! Good luck hunting in SC.
