Missouri creek find ID needed

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Rookster

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Pics would be good.
 

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Tonto6

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Sorry trying to figure out how to do it
 

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Tonto6

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More pieces
 

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bologna321

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Sorry trying to figure out how to do it

Top fossil bottom right pic is a crinoid fossil, part of the "frond" that attaches to the stem
 

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Tonto6

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A couple more of my good one.
 

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arrow86

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Some sweet finds , in the insitu photo at the top left corner under the black leaf almost looks like a worked piece too.... prob just a look a like
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Tonto6

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It very well could be a worked piece. I would hate to know how many I have walked over. Ha ha
 

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Tonto6

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St. Louis area. But hunt central and southern Missouri. Pretty much anywhere I get peremission to hunt I’ll take a look.
 

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The first one looks like a used up Adena. The last one looks like a woodland point as it looks like it was heat treated. Gary
 

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Tonto6

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Thanks for the help. I was thinking the mostly complete one was a harden but with the website arrow86 sent they were never heat treated. It may be a Kirk
 

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I think you'll also find that Kirk's weren't heated either. Very, very few paleo or early archaic point were cooked. Heat treating around here started in the middle archaic during the hypsithermal, or Holocene Climatic Optimum. The climate heated up and the land dried out. Creeks dried up and were choked with weeds limiting access to many flint sources. Poorer quality flint was used and the quality was improved by heating. Heating had its drawbacks though. It made it easier to make and also easier to break. Plus the time and wood necessary to do the heating. Gary
 

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Tonto6

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Thanks. What do you think this is? It looks like the older style points but the heat treatment is puzzling
 

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