Nazi Banner/Flag, is it real? Whats it worth?

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Nazi Banner/Flag, is it real? What's it worth?

First and foremost, I hope I don't offend anyone or break any rules posting this. My sincerest apologies if that's the case.

So my grandfather was stationed in Berlin during ww2. Not sure if this was something he brought home or not but I've inherited it. I have a hunch that it's real. Any idea on how to authenticate it, any idea on possible value?

I'm going to get it checked out tomorrow. From my brief research, it shouldn't shine under a black light for whatever reason. Also if you were to remove a loose fiber and burn it, it's supposed to burn a certain way. I'd post more details about these tests but I'm tuckered out and just wanted to get this posted sooner than later. I've had great luck getting quite timely and helpful responses here.

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I just want to say that I don't think it is necessary for you to worry about offending anyone with your post. But thank you for thinking about us. History is what it is and most of us are here because of our love for history. And we take it good and bad. I hope your flag is real. Nazi items seem to still bring a fairly high price.
 

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I just want to say that I don't think it is necessary for you to worry about offending anyone with your post. But thank you for thinking about us. History is what it is and most of us are here because of our love for history. And we take it good and bad. I hope your flag is real. Nazi items seem to still bring a fairly high price.

Yes what duggap says ! :thumbsup:

Only thing we would have a definite problem with is visual Porn,
dead Human Bodies in any stage of decay,
and
blatant bloody images due to this being a family site .

Nice Flag Hopefully it is a real piece of history
 

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If its real, there might be an RZM number stamped on it. RZM numbers only came into being in 1934, so if it is an older Party Flag, it won't have one. As it is a cotton item, the letter "B" should come after RZM.

God Luck - Mike
 

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I don't know anything about textiles but my first thought is that a genuine flag would be between 70 and 80 years old. I would expect to see some fading of the colours. This one looks pristine.
 

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most likely a new item long ago when gotten and folded up put away in the attic long ago as a "war trophy" and hasn't seen the light of day in many years...that's why its not faded --not outside in the sunlight on a flagpole for all these years ..
 

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First and foremost, I hope I don't offend anyone or break any rules posting this. My sincerest apologies if that's the case.

So my grandfather was stationed in Berlin during ww2. Not sure if this was something he brought home or not but I've inherited it. I have a hunch that it's real. Any idea on how to authenticate it, any idea on possible value?

I'm going to get it checked out tomorrow. From my brief research, it shouldn't shine under a black light for whatever reason. Also if you were to remove a loose fiber and burn it, it's supposed to burn a certain way. I'd post more details about these tests but I'm tuckered out and just wanted to get this posted sooner than later. I've had great luck getting quite timely and helpful responses here.

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Don't even worry about whether it is real or not. Just burn it. It's bad karma to deal in that.
 

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Get over it Carlos. Nazi Karma died out a loooooooooong time ago with the last real Nazi. If KRP712 was trying to get a price on a human skin lampshade, I might agree with you, but its a piece of cloth.

My great aunt had a boyfriend that had been stationed in Germany during and after the war. He had a huge Nazi Banner Flag, several armbands, and some swords/daggers. The flags and armbands were folded and stuck in a drawer for fifty years until I found them digging around her cabin.

Mike
 

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Carlos, the swastika was a "Good Luck" sign long before Hitler
got ahold of it and ba$tardized it's meaning. You'll often find
it printed on the frontispiece of older books (pre-WW2).
 

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I know all about the sanskrit origins of the swastika. That's a Nazi flag. It represents white supremacy, death, atrocities, xenocide, death camps, hatred and murder. Burn it. No great loss.
It's the same as mass murderer memorablia that sickos collect.
 

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The reason it shouldn't glow under a black light is that it would pre-date the use of UV brighteners in the fabric dyes. Can you post some close ups of the fabric so I can see the weave and the stitching? Also do the edges appear to have been cut? I collected German Third Reich items for quite a while so I can get a fairly good idea if it's an authentic period piece. Smell it.... Sounds weird, but old cloth will have a smell of age to it that a modern repro just won't have

The reason I ask if it's cut is that it looks to be a parade banner from the lack of eyelets. (is it double sided?) These are a lot more common than actual flags and don't bring the same kind of values, but they're still very desirable to collectors
 

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If you feel that strongly about the flag....buy it from him and you burn it.
 

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burning it will not turn back time, and prevent the past from happening.


ww2 and everything that happened before and during will still be in the history books to remind us.

If the purpose of destroying such memorabilia , is to make a Point,
such events should be buried & forgotten,
You must also Destroy every history Book that mentions the period,
and every relic from every country including the U.S.
the whole era. & ban talk from historians and anyone who may still be alive and remember
that time.

This flag / parade banner did not rise up and kill anyone,
it is just an historical artifact that fits together with that period,
and what we are told happened in the history books.

imo destroying it would be a crime against the right to knowledge.

and if the purpose of destroying such relics is to make a statement,
and hurt Hitler's feelings...
may I suggest you invent a Time machine,
go back to Hitler & call him a poopy-kopf (poopy-head) :thumbsup:
 

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Carlos,

Are you Taliban or Khmer Rouge? Destroy the things you don't like, because they represent a government that did something very bad? Trying to erase a part of history you don't like? That doesn't work. I think the Catholic Church has a far more prolific and documented history of murder and genocide. Buying Rosaries is just as popular as ever!

Mike
 

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Cool Nazi flag my great uncle Wayne fought all through out Europe with the 101st airborne and landed a glider in Normandy on D Day. I inherited this flag from my grandfather when he died a few years ago. He told me that he got it on New Georgia Island in the Solomon islands in 1943. I never asked if he had traded or took it off someone or just found it, I didn't really feel it was worth bringing back any bad memories he may of had from when he got it. He enlisted in may of 1938 and was stationed at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked and went on to fight all throughout the Pacific theatre until his discharge in August 1945.

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Catholic Church on one hand. On balance a force for good in the world.
Nazi memorablia on the other hand?
Do the math.
 

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It is simply a piece of history. Nazis also wanted to burn things they disagreed with....

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana 1905

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If you have a problem with this flag why don't you just ignore this thread? Burning it won't erase anything. So-called racial supremacy, death, atrocities, death camps, hatred and murder are still going on at this very moment. Mexico, Ukraine, Russia, Lybia, Syria, Iraq, Afganistan et.al. We cannot erase history. We should learn from it.
I know all about the sanskrit origins of the swastika. That's a Nazi flag. It represents white supremacy, death, atrocities, xenocide, death camps, hatred and murder. Burn it. No great loss.
It's the same as mass murderer memorablia that sickos collect.
 

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Cool Nazi flag my great uncle Wayne fought all through out Europe with the 101st airborne and landed a glider in Normandy on D Day. I inherited this flag from my grandfather when he died a few years ago. He told me that he got it on New Georgia Island in the Solomon islands in 1943. I never asked if he had traded or took it off someone or just found it, I didn't really feel it was worth bringing back any bad memories he may of had from when he got it. He enlisted in may of 1938 and was stationed at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked and went on to fight all throughout the Pacific theatre until his discharge in August 1945.

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be great to get it translated.
 

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