🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Not even sure how to describe this... please see photo

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Dug at a late 1800s homesite.


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It does kinda sorta resemble old phurba and dorje.
Weirder stuff has been found in American soil.
 

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I have recently become curious about the rectangular opening found on some...
(Old wood examples)
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I'm assuming from discussion so far that the rectangular hole is the only hole in the object(?)

The bottom tapered part is "square-ish"? It appears this thing was supposed to fit into/onto something else up to the base of the taper, BUT the (pointed) top doesn't look like it was supposed to be hammered down.

So I'm thinking it was mounted on/in something else, and some kind of rod or bar went cross-wise through the hole...

Could this have been part of a small scale/balance? :icon_scratch:
 

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Just a wild guess based on the square part, could it be a spindle for a door lock set/knob?,
The square part would go inside through a escutcheon and into the "bolt" and the handle/lever would be into the square hole.
 

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While watching a TV show tonight I could not help but notice a similarity in basic form as a train conductor closed a sliding door on a cargo car, flipped a hasp closed and inserted this pin into the loop. Certainly a much cruder implement, but it does suggest a function for your item, securing some type of latch. It has a large hole for the ring and chain keeper attachment, and although it's not clear in these photos, the bottom pin was also tapered. Just caught my eye. I also like the idea of it being a key, as suggested by AU Seeker. Turned horizontally, with a handle attached through the rectangular hole it's easy to picture.
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Is there a spot perpendicular to the rectangular cutout that looks like it could be used for a set screw?
The closest thing I can find is the center axis portion of a leather circle cutter.

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Is there very tiny scratched in engravings on the top part?
 

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This reminds me of two things-

1- The inside of a water tap from a small gravity fed reservoir. Like a samovar but different.
The tapered square part would have a handle set onto it.

2- A rifle cleaning jag. It's not threaded, but not all of them were, some were just set into a dowel.
 

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Maybe the tapered end went into a wooden handle and it was used as a tool of some sort? Sorry, that's all I have!
 

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Maybe the tapered end went into a wooden handle and it was used as a tool of some sort? Sorry, that's all I have!
The tapered end is the same as those auger/drill bits for those antique hand drills. I'm betting it's to be placed into into some kind of chuck, which is why I think has something to do with my previous post. Whether or not it is from an adjustable circle cutter for leather I'm not sure, but it's something similar.

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Edit: Just realized there are T-handles that accept those bits as well.
 

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The tapered end is the same as those auger/drill bits for those antique hand drills. I'm betting it's to be placed into into some kind of chuck, which is why I think has something to do with my previous post. Whether or not it is from an adjustable circle cutter for leather I'm not sure, but it's something similar.

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Edit: Just realized there are T-handles that accept those bits as well.
I think you are correct. That might have came out of the Chuck of a lathe. Could have been something someone just spun and cut for some reason, and we will never know why.

But they did put that sloted hole in the side of it for some reason 🤔
 

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The tapered end is the same as those auger/drill bits for those antique hand drills. I'm betting it's to be placed into into some kind of chuck, which is why I think has something to do with my previous post. Whether or not it is from an adjustable circle cutter for leather I'm not sure, but it's something similar.

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Edit: Just realized there are T-handles that accept those bits as well.
I would determine if the squared section is identical in dimension to a brace and bit.
 

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I would determine if the squared section is identical in dimension to a brace and bit.

Given the size (3" long and diameter of a pencil), it may not be a a complete match in the dimensions of an actual auger bit as I don't think it was meant to be used in a brace and bit or lathe as it has a fairly ornate design. I'd say that it was a small hand tool with maybe a small t-handle attachment.
 

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