Not "Simply Just Rocks"

[jj358]

I normally don't respond to these posts,if these are the artifacts in your area then you need to change areas.

 

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[Backwoodsbob]

Well, Mexico is part of North America, and the civilizations that arose there had alphabets. The Mayans, who inhabited both North America and Central America, were among the greatest mathematicians and astronomers of ancient times. Invented the concept of zero in fact. So yeah, they knew what numbers were. And the Mayan calender was far more accurate then any calender used in Europe at the time. So, to answer your question, yep, they sure did.

Thank you Charl
With your statement you have proven my point. If you would carefully examine as few of his stones have numbers. As a matter of fact not fiction. If you were to closely examine all the so call wild artifact claims you will see they all have the same numbers on them. You guys are just taking a glance at these and throwing them out because they show no napping as one person said. Thanks for providing the expert opinion without me having to arguing my point. I sorry for loading that question that you just happen to pick up. I knew the answer before I asked it. I didn't know b you would be the one to answer it. Have a good day Charl. You have made mine.God Bless
Bob

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[Backwoodsbob]

Now next question is where did they learn those skills from?

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[Treasure_Hunter]

Rocks posted above are nothing but rocks, they are not artifacts...

 

[civil_war22]

Thank you Charl
With your statement you have proven my point. If you would carefully examine as few of his stones have numbers. As a matter of fact not fiction. If you were to closely examine all the so call wild artifact claims you will see they all have the same numbers on them. You guys are just taking a glance at these and throwing them out because they show no napping as one person said. Thanks for providing the expert opinion without me having to arguing my point. I sorry for loading that question that you just happen to pick up. I knew the answer before I asked it. I didn't know b you would be the one to answer it. Have a good day Charl. You have made mine.God Bless
Bob

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Can you please show us the numbers? I'm interested in seeing them as well as I am sure others are too. In which way are you saying all the rocks have numbers that you see in the pictures. If you count all the rocks in the pictures then yes technically they all have a number but to say without a shadow of a doubt that a ancient Indian civilization made the numbers on there for only certain people to see with special vision is crazy

 

[Charl]

Thank you Charl
With your statement you have proven my point. If you would carefully examine as few of his stones have numbers. As a matter of fact not fiction. If you were to closely examine all the so call wild artifact claims you will see they all have the same numbers on them. You guys are just taking a glance at these and throwing them out because they show no napping as one person said. Thanks for providing the expert opinion without me having to arguing my point. I sorry for loading that question that you just happen to pick up. I knew the answer before I asked it. I didn't know b you would be the one to answer it. Have a good day Charl. You have made mine.God Bless
Bob

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Having seen many of your Jesuit posts, I long since decided you were delusional. Don't take it personal, please. You can call me close minded, etc. But I just can't help but see you as somebody who is delusional. You see things that are not there. You seem to be taking the "seeing shapes in clouds" phenomenon, and applying it to the rocks you and others present here for consideration. And the entire Jesuit paradigm you have invented is just that, an invention, a figment of the imagination. Now, I don't expect you to agree, and that's fine. It isn't personal, but I'm certainly not afraid to state the obvious either, namely, you have an imagination that takes what you believe your eyes see, and then creates a delusional narrative. Your ideas and interpretations are not based in reality. In other words, delusional.

 

[EastCoastmetal]

At one time humans thought the earth was flat and you could be put to death if you said other wise, the lesson is that we should never say this is that and thats the end of the story because usually it isn't the end of the story, heck maybe most of the things we 'think" we know now may turn out to be wrong, who knows.

Most of those look like rocks, but maybe in 1000 years we might have a more advanced way to analyze them if they happen to be still around and find out they were actually artifacts of some type or just rocks.

Its better to say , in my opinion these look like artifacts, others say in their opinion they look like rocks, either way is fine as long as we don't start burning people at the stake (again) because we don't like their opinion.

Then again what do I know.

 

[Charl]

Thank you Charl
With your statement you have proven my point. If you would carefully examine as few of his stones have numbers. As a matter of fact not fiction. If you were to closely examine all the so call wild artifact claims you will see they all have the same numbers on them. You guys are just taking a glance at these and throwing them out because they show no napping as one person said. Thanks for providing the expert opinion without me having to arguing my point. I sorry for loading that question that you just happen to pick up. I knew the answer before I asked it. I didn't know b you would be the one to answer it. Have a good day Charl. You have made mine.God Bless
Bob

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BTW, joshuaream answered your question with the same info I provided you. So, you're welcome, of course, but in extending thanks to me, you deprive him of the credit for answering your question first, and for apparently proving your point, whatever that point actually is.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

At one time humans thought the earth was flat and you could be put to death if you said other wise, the lesson is that we should never say this is that and thats the end of the story because usually it isn't the end of the story, heck maybe most of the things we 'think" we know now may turn out to be wrong, who knows.

Most of those look like rocks, but maybe in 1000 years we might have a more advanced way to analyze them if they happen to be still around and find out they were actually artifacts of some type or just rocks.

Its better to say , in my opinion these look like artifacts, others say in their opinion they look like rocks, either way is fine as long as we don't start burning people at the stake (again) because we don't like their opinion.

Then again what do I know.

ECM, problem is this is the "North American indian Artifact Forum", none of these rocks/geofacts are indian artifacts or artifacts of any kind. If someone wants to hold onto every rock they find for a 1000 years in hopes they become artifacts they are welcome to do so.......

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I have come to the conclusion that people who honestly think items like these are actual artifacts need to take up stamp collecting.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Smart ones collect gold and silver and guns

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[Backwoodsbob]

ECM, problem is this is the "North American indian Artifact Forum", none of these rocks/geofacts are indian artifacts or artifacts of any kind. If someone wants to hold onto every rock they find for a 1000 years in hopes they become artifacts they are welcome to do so.......

That is your opinion as far as artifacts. Why is that there is no North American artifacts the tread. Do you think that only Indian left things laying around. Or is that everyone loop hole so to speak. There is evidence of of other people being in this country. Whom ever they may be. Some even think the lost tribe of the Israelite mat have settle. Then what about Phoenician. We really only know what we have been taught. How do you kow it was right. Columbus did not discover America like we were told. Nobody here knows the whole truth. What the gains that is spoke of in the bible and in folklore. Have you seen one? I've seen supposedly one on the Internet. Do that make it true. All I'm saying is have an open mind. You don't have to agree. But you also don't have to belittle the poster on their finds. You guys know they are trying to find the answers to what they think may be something. We have all been wrong once in your life time . What makes you think you can't be wrong this time. You have been taught to think like you do. No room for improve knowledge. It a mob mentality where one person make a comment then the rest follow. I know some of you are very talented individuals. You have a lot of field work experience. But on what? If we all tried to limit ones thinking. Where would we be, still in the stone age? Try to play on the same level here. Showing a person you might be smarter than he is rather vain. Some things have a definitive answer but a lot don't. Those who don't want to debate this should sit back and let the one who do. Some say they have examined the stones but I seriously doubt they gave much time at all. One look and that was all. Even when offered to be sent the stones in question. Don't want to have anything to do with it. My disagreement with the masses may get me kicked off. I'm not calling anyone names or insulting them. If you feel I am then I apologize for it not my intention. Be fair to others and soon we will solve the issues. May God Bless you all
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[Treasure_Hunter]

I have blown the rocks up as far as I can blow them up, there is no sign there of work by man other than the ceramic/pottery piece and no way to know if it is even old, the rest are rocks.

If we had a geofact forum I would move it there, it doesn't belong here.... Bob, since you don't like the way we run our forums why don't you start your own forum for these types of rocks...

 

[civil_war22]

I have blown the rocks up as far as I can blow them up, there is no sign there of work by man other than the ceramic/pottery piece and no way to know if it is even old, the rest are rocks.

If we had a geofact forum I would move it there, it doesn't belong here.... Bob, since you don't like the way we run our forums why don't you start your own forum for these types of rocks...

I started a geofact thread you can place it there

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Say what you will. I believe there is an agenda that wants us to think that there weren't ancient advanced civilizations In North America, they discredit any evidence as soon as it is presented. These rocks have been picked and flaked and shaped by humans from long ago. My favorite is the round clay ball. It was once wrapped in some sort of animal hide and used in a stickball like game. I will not be responding to naysayers. I've done countless hours of research. Thanks for looking.


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So, if you have done all of this research to prove that these are older than the known cultures here in North America then please share it with us. We would love to see it. Are you published with this fantastic theory? Recognized by scholars nation wide?

Even the oldest known cultures in the world have recognizable flaked artifacts. The Oldowan Tools are as old as 2.6 million years and they show obvious flaking. Acheulean is 1.7 millions years old and they made actual Bi Face tools. Your pieces show absolutely zero flaking, grinding, or any manipulation by the hand of man. If you wish to prove your point then back it up with your research please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_tool

 

[NCPeaches]

I see several fossils and they are cool and shows how old the area is but no prehistoric tools or artifacts. I'm thinking that where you find fossils you will eventually find artifacts so keep looking because from what I see in your pics you are picking up the right shapes so your eye is getting trained. Now to get them to focus on a worked point, some pottery shards or polished stone tool and when you do see one there will be no doubt at all. The fossils alone are really neat and something I never find other than plant fossils in the pottery shards and some of the smooth stones I find too. I would be curious too about the 2 shards of the more modern pieces, wonder what they are from. I once found a wad of super slick what I thought was clay and turned out to be soapstone but just a piece that was discarded and not from anything in particular but later on I found a soapstone bowl piece and as soon as I saw it I knew the other was not clay, hope that makes sense. Good luck and hang in there you will find something real cool soon and will understand what everyone is trying to explain!

 

[Backwoodsbob]

So from what I gather, because you don't see napping or flaking you have concluded it hasn't been worked. You are so right about that. I told you guys it not done the way. Beside you don't have to blow it up. It's first made to be seen small. Then blow it up. Don't let that confuse you

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[sawmill man]

Not arguing here ,but dos that supposed to have a map or numbers ? looks like a thousand years of crusted bug poop. just saying.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

So from what I gather, because you don't see napping or flaking you have concluded it hasn't been worked. You are so right about that. I told you guys it not done the way. Beside you don't have to blow it up. It's first made to be seen small. Then blow it up. Don't let that confuse you

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Nothing confusing there. It's a rock with a crusty substance adhered to it. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

That right it does have a substance adhered to it. That's how they made the designs on it. Good job Grim. At least your learning. Now look at the rest of it. Remember the numbers you will always see 75 or 57 and even357.177 ,267 87 and more. But the first three will always be on them

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