Oak Island/New Ross theory.

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I have a new theory. There are several, like Wolters, who seem to believe that everything that happened in Europe and the Americas between the years 900AD and 1800AD somehow involved the Templars; and that the Templars had a direct and continuous link from Hospitallers/Knights of St. John) right on up through the Norman conquest of England and was continuous with the modern version of the Masons (which was re-introduced in 1717). So my theory is that someone is trying to come up with a "Templars Were Everywhere" theory. Probably in the interest of producing documentaries for the History Channel instead of uncovering historical events. Pity.

There are an awful lot of holes in this "Grand Templar Unification Theory" that proposes the Templars did everything everywhere and gaps of centuries where, as far as I have read or know about, no connections have been proven. Sure, the Norse had settlements and camps in North America around 1,000 AD and L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland may go back earlier. Those have been found, documented and dated. But there is no evidence they shared the knowledge or there was Templar travel to the Americas. That has yet to be found - or at least accepted by "professionals".

MY theory is that the spread of ideas and goods was not the Templars at all but the Norse. They'd start with offers to trade; and if that didn't work out then they went to raiding. We know they were everywhere from America to Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Iran. You found a Templar Cross somewhere? Maybe what you found was trade goods raided from a monestary that ended up miles away in the cargo hold of a Longboat rather than the treasure cabin of a Templar operated ship. When they dissolved in 1300 AD the Templar goods were dispersed in trade or conquest and the "line" vanished until someone picked it up again in 1717, and tried to ravel together a fabricated history that made them seem more important than they were (are).

Remember Occam's Razor - look for the simple solution. Not the most convoluted, mystical, 40 pages of star chart drawings pseudo-science to find non-existent treasure.

 

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[Eldo]

The funniest part is that these Templars who were throughout the area.....they all had Norse roots, and were warrior caste

They later became servants of the Kingdoms and were devout in many skilled crafts.....masters of their trades.

Now we have the many Templar legends created in lands they once traveled to.

Now we know how they found these places.....they were described in detail and passed throughout Europe by the original Irishman who found this land.

First St. Brennan the Navigator, then the Norse followed.......then the Templars, then the Rosicruian Order under Bacon and the Kings of England, France, and Spain settling in the New World.

The Italian and Spanish were influenced by the insanity of the Jesuit Order....and the rest of the Roman Catholic Church's claims were founded on these land grabs and colonization efforts

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The Norse had their own version of the Templars that weren't hampered by a higher purpose. The Varangians and Varangian Guard were a group of Norse who "hired out" as mercenaries and guards for 450 years and participated in the sieges, sacks and pillaging of a BUNCH of European and Byzantium kingdoms (including Harold's ill-fated attack on Britain). They might have been employed by the Templars. Maybe. All the while sending a portion of the goods (and concepts) back home. They were predecessors and contemporaries of the Templars and doubtless fought both with and against them at times. Templars were around maybe 200 years; but by 1300 the "Vikings" had settled down in their "passified" regions of Normandy, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Northern Russia, etc. and the vacuum left by the Romans was no longer as easy to exploit.

 

[Eldo]

I was meaning that their lineage dates to some of their Norse roots.......not actually orders established by the Norse and Templars together.....

Merely that there was some older history in England that dated back to the Norse blood from the original migrations from their lands in Scandinavia and Germany forming their Anglo Saxon roots there.

As far as marauding idiots go.....there is a group in almost every nation.

 

[joncutt87]

Might want to check out the book "Vikings a history" by Robert ferguson. Lots of information and maps.