Old Hotel/Stagecoach Stop

ANTIQUARIAN

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Upon arriving at the site yesterday, I detected behind where the hotel originally stood. Only finding modern junk here, I wondered further into the fields out back of the property. There were a series of lumps and bumps here where a number of ‘out buildings' were originally located. Some of my interesting finds yesterday was a WWII Canadian Military Button and a ‘Crown Rosette’. I am very interested to hear everyone’s opinion on the nature and date of this rosette. Was it military, possibly from a dispatch rider, maybe 'postal' related or was it simply a decorative crown expressing loyalty to the sovereign of our young country at that time? Does anyone recognize what type of crown this is? :dontknow:

WWII Queen’s Own Rifles of Canada Button — c1939 - 45
“During the interwar years, Service Dress was the main uniform of the Canadian soldier. Most corps and regiments adopted distinctive buttons. They were worn on the Service Dress Jacket, primarily, though some units may have worn them on greatcoats and service dress hats as well. Most buttons were slightly dome shaped though some were flatter. These buttons were generally brass, with Rifle regiments generally wearing black. Some units, or individuals may have adopted chrome or gilt versions. Plastic buttons were adopted by the British Army during the Second World War as an economy measure, but don't seem to have been adopted by Canadians. Regulations during the war did call for the cessation of construction of unit buttons, as an economy measure, though those in possession of corps or regimental buttons were permitted to keep wearing them.”

The Brougham Central Hotel
“The original hotel had three documented moves from its historic site; the realignment of Brock Road; there is a similarity in names between the Brougham Central Hotel and the Brougham Hotel. By 1851, the Hotel already contained ‘good stabling for horses’ and a room large enough to host “an evening concert at brother Woodruffs’ Temperance House” which capped off the Temperance Soiree of May 15, 1851. The use of the term ‘house’ for the hotel, a traditional British synonym for Inn, has its roots in that the early inns and taverns were often originally simply domestic homes, which, due to strategic location became convenient stopovers for travelers and were thus occasionally opened to the public.”

Thanks very much for looking and stay healthy! :thumbsup:
Dave
 

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ticndig

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Great recovery , I love the button and a bit surprised by the lack of coins at such a site.
 

BLK HOLE

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Very cool saves! Congrats:icon_thumleft:
 

villival

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I don't know anything about the type of crown, but that rosette is really cool.
 

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All good finds. Like the button!
 

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Nice " before" and "after" pics of the hotel Dave. Great looking button and rosette. Can't help you with the history. Cheers!
 

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Awesome relic hunt, congrats! :icon_thumleft:
 

creskol

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NICE relics and I love the history! Well done, Dave!
 

Relicific

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I agree that’s a nice looking button and that rosette is very unique.
Nice hunt Dave
 

Blak bart

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Way ta go dave !! Congrats !! I ditto coinstar magnet...they dont make um like they used to !!
 

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ANTIQUARIAN

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Great recovery , I love the button and a bit surprised by the lack of coins at such a site.

Thanks for your post ticndig. :thumbsup:
There's a lot of ground to cover on this site and based on the age of the finds, it was likely inhabited until the late 1960s.
Unfortunately, the grass is very thick and has had 50+ years to grow and die, so any coins are likely very deep.
Dave


Very cool saves! Congrats:icon_thumleft:

Thank you Sir.


I don't know anything about the type of crown, but that rosette is really cool.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts villival.
I'm thinking it's a 'standardized' British Crown created after the death of Queen Victoria in 1901. :icon_scratch:
Dave



Nice!!! Congrats!!!

Thanks Randy! :thumbsup:


All good finds. Like the button!

Thanks Cru, I now understand that the 'Queens Own Rifles of Canada' played a large part in D-Day. :award_star_silver_1
Dave



Nice " before" and "after" pics of the hotel Dave. Great looking button and rosette. Can't help you with the history. Cheers!
Thanks for you post Silvermonkey. :hello:
When the original north/south alignment of the road was straightened in the 1950s this old building was demolished.
In reality, I was searching the yard to the west and north of the original building site.
Dave


Top notch finds there Dave! The QOR have a long history and played a big role on D-Day.

Thanks buddy! :icon_thumleft:
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of the buttons history, this is something I didn't know.
Dave



Great button and rosette Dave

Thanks for your post my friend.
Hope you're able to get out detecting these days.
Dave



Awesome relic hunt, congrats! :icon_thumleft:

Thanks very much Professor.


NICE relics and I love the history! Well done, Dave!

Thank you creskol. :thumbsup:
I too wish there were some coin finds as ticndig mentioned, still I'm pretty happy with the results.
Dave



I agree that’s a nice looking button and that rosette is very unique.
Nice hunt Dave
Thanks buddy! :hello:
I'm thinking the leather harness this rosette was attached to, likely broke and fell off when it was lost due to the damage of the edges.
Dave


Just stellar finds....love the crown motif...is anything created these days with that kind of beauty or detail?
I like the way you think my friend and I completely agree! :occasion14:
The amount of energy that went into creating a simple horse rosette back in the day simply amazes me.
The bridle rosette obviously served a very important purpose hundreds of years ago when the horse was our primary mode of transport. :thumbsup:
Dave

"For thousands of years, horse owners have adorned the bridles of their horses with decorations known as bridle rosettes. Not only decorative, rosettes served the functional purpose of securing the bridle headstall. They also revealed important characteristics of the horse’s owner. In ancient and medieval times, bridle rosettes were made of metals, such as iron, bronze and copper. As industrialized manufacturing flourished in the 1800’s, bridle rosettes were created with glass domes enclosing hand-painted artwork, dye cuts, pictures and photographs.

Bridle rosettes identified the military war horse, adorned the bridle of a horse carrying its rider to a funeral or wedding, advertised businesses and fraternal organizations, served as ornaments depicting favorite activities of the time such as hunting. Each bridle rosette tells a story of its owner and the historical era from which it came."


Way ta go dave !! Congrats !! I ditto coinstar magnet...they dont make um like they used to !!

Thanks very much for your post Bart.
I've probably found a dozen bridle rosettes in my past 10 years of detecting, but when I find an example with this much detail on it, makes it very special. :hello2:
Best of luck to you in Florida and stay healthy,
Dave
 

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smallfoot

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The button and rosette made your hunt..congrats!
 

Coinstar magnet

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Thanks for your post ticndig. :thumbsup:
There's a lot of ground to cover on this site and based on the age of the finds, it was likely inhabited until the late 1960s.
Unfortunately, the grass is very thick and has had 50+ years to grow and die, so any coins are likely very deep.
Dave




Thank you Sir.




Thanks for sharing your thoughts villival.
I'm thinking it's a 'standardized' British Crown created after the death of Queen Victoria in 1901. :icon_scratch:
Dave





Thanks Randy! :thumbsup:




Thanks Cru, I now understand that the 'Queens Own Rifles of Canada' played a large part in D-Day. :award_star_silver_1
Dave




Thanks for you post Silvermonkey. :hello:
When the original north/south alignment of the road was straightened in the 1950s this old building was demolished.
In reality, I was searching the yard to the west and north of the original building site.
Dave




Thanks buddy! :icon_thumleft:
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of the buttons history, this is something I didn't know.
Dave





Thanks for your post my friend.
Hope you're able to get out detecting these days.
Dave





Thanks very much Professor.




Thank you creskol. :thumbsup:
I too wish there were some coin finds as ticndig mentioned, still I'm pretty happy with the results.
Dave




Thanks buddy! :hello:
I'm thinking the leather harness this rosette was attached to, likely broke and fell off when it was lost due to the damage of the edges.
Dave



I like the way you think my friend and I completely agree! :occasion14:
The amount of energy that went into creating a simple horse rosette back in the day simply amazes me.
The bridle rosette obviously served a very important purpose hundreds of years ago when the horse was our primary mode of transport. :thumbsup:
Dave

"For thousands of years, horse owners have adorned the bridles of their horses with decorations known as bridle rosettes. Not only decorative, rosettes served the functional purpose of securing the bridle headstall. They also revealed important characteristics of the horse’s owner. In ancient and medieval times, bridle rosettes were made of metals, such as iron, bronze and copper. As industrialized manufacturing flourished in the 1800’s, bridle rosettes were created with glass domes enclosing hand-painted artwork, dye cuts, pictures and photographs.

Bridle rosettes identified the military war horse, adorned the bridle of a horse carrying its rider to a funeral or wedding, advertised businesses and fraternal organizations, served as ornaments depicting favorite activities of the time such as hunting. Each bridle rosette tells a story of its owner and the historical era from which it came."




Thanks very much for your post Bart.
I've probably found a dozen bridle rosettes in my past 10 years of detecting, but when I find an example with this much detail on it, makes it very special. :hello2:
Best of luck to you in Florida and stay healthy,
Dave
Fascinating history on the bridle rosette. And a find that was very personal to someone. Thanks for sharing that.
 

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ANTIQUARIAN

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The button and rosette made your hunt..congrats!

Thank you, I would've been happy just having found the WWII button, but the rosette is definitely the most memorable for me. :thumbsup:

Best of luck to you in Florida,
Dave



Fascinating history on the bridle rosette. And a find that was very personal to someone. Thanks for sharing that.

I feel the same way about this find too and I certainly have more questions then answers. :icon_scratch:

Was the owner active in the military, an avid supporter of the King or Queen of our country or was this just 'decoration' for the horse's bridle? :dontknow:

Hopefully someone here will recognize if this piece holds any significance.
Dave
 

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