Question on pin pointers from an newbie?

[Old man walking.]

I'm new to this hobby and have just barely gotten out of the back yard. I have a bounty hunter detector and an auto max pin pointer both of which serve me well so far. My problem is that I sometimes end up digging more than I desire to find the treasure. I've looked at the Cache Pro 250 Pin Pointer. They look attractive to me in that it looks like I could probe the soil, in most cases, and zero in on my target and do less damage to the environment. Does anyone have experience with this pin pointer? I can't find any reviews from the sellers. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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[godisnum1]

Unfortunately, there's usually a reason for that...

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[spartacus53]

They look attractive to me in that it looks like I could probe the soil, in most cases, and zero in on my target and do less damage to the environment.

Digging a hole doesn't hurt the environment, so don't fret about that. So long as your replace any grass/plant life and tamp firmly you'll be fine and don't let anyone tell you different If you doubt me, just take a look at your local golf course fairways that have literally been hacked hour after hour, and yet the grass lives IF anything a little digging is good as it aerates the soil . Yeah, I've got a green thumb

 

[Old man walking.]

Thanks for your comment. Maybe I should have simply asked if anyone has had any dealings with the Cache Pro Pointer.

 

[XLTer]

Old Man Walking , forgive me if I state the obvious . You say your new to detecting . Have you mastered the art of pinpointing with your detector yet ? Does your machine tell you how deep your target is ? The Cache Pro Pointer is a nice locator , but you need to be as close to your target as possible to begin with . Bury some targets that you know exact location & depth . Once you understand your detector & pinpoint mode , it will help any pinpointer do it's final job . Hope this helps .

 

[spartacus53]

Actually I have a Bulleye II, hate it and never use it. I rely on the built in pin pointer on my Ace250 and it does the job just fine. I just think pin pointers are a waste of money and to hear people talk about quicker recovery is nothing more malarkey. What do they actually save, a few seconds

 

[XLTer]

Spartacus , I'm not trying to be sarcastic , but maybe you could sell it to Old Man Walking . Maybe it will help him . Maybe his eyesight is'nt what it used to be ? Either way , I'm sure he would appreciate it . Just a thought of making 2 detectorists happy .

 

[Old man walking.]

Your right XLTer, My eyes aren't strong, and neither is my hearing. My ears ring so loud that it bothers people around me, making it hard to master the tones and hone in on a target. Sometimes I'm right on but the other day I dug a hole that you could hide a new Buick in, and only found a clad penny. My back ain't too good either so I really need to lessen the digging in order to continue with this hobby. So, if any of you have had any dealings with the Cache Pro 250, I'd appreciate any info that you can provide, whether good or bad.

I actually did bury a variety of coins in the garden and experimented and learned quite a bit. I'm just looking for something easy I guess. I use the all metal mode to pin point. My hearing is a drawback.

Spartacus, Uh, I don't know what a Bulleye II is, but it looks to me like you have to dig the hole first in order to use it. I'm there already. Maybe someone younger with good eyes and ears who don't mind digging will make an offer.
Thanks again and good luck to all.

 

[Infowarrior]

I have only used the garrett pro pointer, and I mean, it is not just saving a couple seconds like spartacus said, it saves unlimited amount of time...

The ace 250 does have a decent pin pointer built in, but a handheld pointer makes it so much better...

Before I got the pin pointer, there were quite a few holes that I never found out what was inside, and gave up, Now I never give up...

If you only have say, 3 hours to detect, would you rather recover 20 items, or 100? I guess it does depend on where you are digging, I only have land experience, no beach or water yet...

It is a decent price tag, but well worth it IMO

 

[spartacus53]

I have only used the garrett pro pointer, and I mean, it is not just saving a couple seconds like spartacus said, it saves unlimited amount of time...

The ace 250 does have a decent pin pointer built in, but a handheld pointer makes it so much better...

I understand where you're coming from and I'm not trying to start a flame war either Personally, I find it a waste of money, and as for time, well... I plan on living forever and so far, so good, so time is not a great concern to me. Besides, I enjoy the day out.

As far as the Bullseye goes, I have no idea where I even put it, that's how important I found it, and it's been MIA well over a year now

 

[Old man walking.]

Thanks to the comments and advice I'll save my money and keep practicing. I've put in a couple days of practice, buried more coins in the garden and have learned to do a better job of pin pointing. I think most of my problems zeroing in were due to hunting places with a lot of junk. I've found a lot of clad and a few keepers, wheat's mostly. Also a ton of junk and pull tabs. I'm having a ball with this addiction and I love all the info on this site. Thanks again.

 

[bowwinkles]

old man, There may be another approach to your situation. I know there are the puritans that seem to have objection to new advancements to our addiction and answering a very good question with the standard "why would you want one in the first place" type of comment. My take on what you are experiencing is what many others seem to have. The practice suggestion is good but a very good pin pointer would also help. I cannot advise you about the Auto Max pointer but I can tell you about some others that are currently available. My base pointer is now the Minelab but the Garrett seemed to be very close to its function as long as I could keep it running. My suggestion is that you pin point with your detector as close as you can then with a good pin pointer like the Minelab/Garrett you can point strait down and search on the suspected area and in most cases the pointer can locate the target find as long as it is in the first three inches of the surface. Then a simple one scoop can normally find the target. With old eyes, old ears, and old back a few minutes here and there saved really helps and aids in a more pleasant hunt.

 

[Frankn]

Old man walking, Hay, I am 75, My eyes arent as good as they use to be and my hearing aid is at max power. Here's how I work it, I pinpoint it with my XLT. I then insert a metal probe in the center of my coil and touch it. I then know exactly where it is location wise and dept wise. If it is less than 3", I feel for the edge with the probe and slip it under the target and lever it to the surface. If it is more than 3", I dig a 3' dia plug just a little deeper than the target, remove it and extract the target. Now if the target is small or earth colored, I will resort to my $16 HF pinpointer to find it in a few seconds.
NOW about pinpointers. I don't care how much you pay, they all find a dime at app. 1". Now if you are not happy unless you spend a bundle on it, by all means blow your wad on a big brand name. By the way, pinpointers are not probes. You don't stick them in the ground, you stick them in a hole. Frank

 

[kyrock]

Never used one and never will...trust your detector and trust that you know where your target is located. Dig a small hole and if not found dig alittle bigger and deeper. Never an issue with me....

 

[Frankn]

Kyrock. How do you know which way to widen if you don't use a pinpointer. Don't tell me the detector, it told you wrong the first time. Frank

 

[bowwinkles]

Contrary to what some may say, some of the pin pointers are designed to "prob the soil" and the Cache Pro that you asked about is one of them. The two I talked about have a blunt end on them and if the soil is a bit loose probing works well. I have protective wear caps on mine to prevent wear from this action. It seems it should be the users choice as to the choice of probing the soil with the business end of the pin pointer or not. The manufactures description of your Auto max calls the the business end of its unit "the probe" and then states the length of it. What ever makes your outing more pleasant and enjoyable is what you should do.

 

[Frankn]

The manufactures description of your Auto max calls the the business end of its unit "the probe" and then states the length of it. What ever makes your outing more pleasant and enjoyable is what you should do.

AH yes,Bowwinkles, That end of the pointer is called the probe, But the manufacturer does not say to shove it in the ground, but rather in the hole in the ground. If you enjoy abusing your electronic equipment by all means do so and pay the price, but please don't advise new members to follow suit. Frank

 

[kyrock]

Like I said, never had an issue...Once I pinpoint it with the detector, front to back and side to side....I know where to dig... I've had a Tesoro Cutless II Umax for over 12 yrs. and it has never let me down...nothing fancy and it does the job. I will say, if you want a pinpointer and you think it would help you, go for it. Just saying I don't want something else to carry in the field....Peace to all and Merry Christmas!

 

[gleaner1]

To Hell with the Cache Pro 250. Check out Cache Probe Cp350

 

[Frankn]

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