✅ SOLVED Raillroad things I think, Please help if you can.

[cdsieg]

Hook Like thing

The Things In Bold are the things I would most like to get more information on.

I found in my back yard, we don't live too far off the railroad tracks, I am pretty sure most of it is railroad related, but I am not sure.

The square shovel with the broken handle was buried under some brush along with the gloves, hat and the rag.

About the shovel, I searched online today and have found similar shovels, but this one has a number four on it. I found information on Number 2 shovels but nothing specific on the number 4.

It is a coal shovel. On the face of the shovel or the scoop area, it looks like it might have some writing on it. I have not seen other shovels marked in this area. I am not sure. I was wondering if anyone knows the age, or any relevant information about these items.

As far as the gloves go, they have made those kind of gloves forever, is there any way to tell how old they might be?





The metal hook like thing and the other thing in the same photo, are they railroad related or what are they?


The old wooden handle was found not too far from the other stuff. This wood handle looks like it had carved rings around it to indicate measurements of 3, 6 and 12 inches. I have never seen anything like this before so it may have just been something that someone did on their own. It also looks like there is some yellow orange color.



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[pa plateau hiker]

A reference book I have shows a tool similar to yours with a tapered point called a side chisel, used for cutting rivets.

 

[Monty]

The shovel could be a coal shovel use to stoke the furnace on a locomotive. Monty

 

[TomPA]

Agree on the coal shovel ID. They are found nearly everywhere (people garages) here in W. PA.

 

[cdsieg]

Thanks for the reply, but I don't have any idea what item you are talking about. All the Chisel I find online are long and thin. Please clarify if you have time. Thanks, Cindy

 

[Dano Sverige]

Casey Jones wore gloves like those when he was steamin and a rollin'...all i know!

 

[pa plateau hiker]

Google "Hubbard side chisel". The description is under "Railway track & structures cyclopedia issue 1".

 

[cdsieg]

[h=3]Thanks for the excellent reference source, I found the book online with a photo, are you referring to the thing on my photos next to the
hook like thing?

Railway track & structures cyclopedia - Issue 1 - Page 706 - Google Books [/h]

 

[cdsieg]

Casey Jones wore gloves like those when he was steamin and a rollin'...all i know!

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[cdsieg]

"Number 4" and possible Writing on the shovel scoop or face.

I appreciate the feedback so far, but...

On the face of the shovel or the scoop area, it looks like it might have some writing on it. I have not seen other shovels marked in this area. Has anyone seen this before and information SPECIFICALLY on the number 4 shovel would be appreciated.

Also anyone ever make shovel handles with measure marks etched in or was this something a clever person did on their own?

Any way to age the gloves?

 

[mick56]

The pointed shovel shown is a "No. 2" shovel, one of the more familiar shovels you will see. The other one is a "No. 4", called a coal shovel. Some makers must have the model number embossed into the shovel.

Does the handle with the rings look heavier than a shovel handle? It looks to me maybe it is for a pick or sledge hammer. The rings could be for measuring the depth of a hole, or, we used to grind rings like that on a handle for a better grip. Some also would grind rings to indentify it as "their" favorite tool to use.

 

[cdsieg]

The Handle with the rings looks like it maybe a little bigger than a shovel handle, I never thought about using it for gripping. I think I will do that to all of my husbands tools. . He is a Virgo, that wouldn't go over so good! It is a good idea though.
Thank you for giving me SPECIFIC information on the number 4!