Rebekah Sword?? 19c Ames Chicopee, IOOF, Encampment.

[Joecoins]

Purchased this yesterday at an antique store on North shore of PEI, It spoke to me... I payed 250$ that i dont even have.
I have already researched it a bit , but...
? Do Rebekahs have swords?
I think its very likely, from my research that in the 1860's they got all the same jewels and offices.
? What rank was this individual?

The name. M.C. Barbour.
George Hilton Barbour. A significant Pei individual 1874-1963
Who studied him self in Boston Mass. "For upgraded education".
Well his Mother Mary Eliza Currie;-maiden name..., Mary Currie Barbour, Married name. ,
M.C. Barbour.
She fits the time frame for IOOF Rebekahs at the start.

What does everybody think?
What can anyone tell me that i may have missed?
Thank you

 

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[Joecoins]

Iether way whoever got that cheap sword you linked in ebay. Congrats. I think it was a steal at 100$

 

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[HCW]

Chicopee is in Massachusetts

 

[Joecoins]

And by the way concerning the goblet/ chalice. Its still up in the air if its old or repro. I actualy got a responce back from a reputable auction service. They said it is likely 19c -18c at most, and even they said its not pewter, ...

 

[Joecoins]

1 of a kind?

 

[Joecoins]

The crooks are crossed lower rather than higher. I think the location the crooks are crossed could further distinguish it as beign a rebekah's sword.

 

[Joecoins]

Ladies the crooks are crossed lower..

 

[Joecoins]

Photo

 

[Joecoins]

Photos

 

[Joecoins]

Most are comon.
This sword is a rare .
And to a collector with a market full of cheapy rusty commons. I am shure they realize how rare this is. .and only one fraternal sword collector can have it...

 

[Joecoins]

only females may hold the highest Rebekah offices..

 

[ajaj]

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[Joecoins]

Thank you Aj. For your comment. Humility is one of the Virtues i cherish. Next to Reason and love.
Forgive me if something i have personaly posted seemed unhumble,

 

[unclemac]

$250 Canadian is like $190 U.S.

 

[Joecoins]

Originaly antique dealer wanted 269.+ tax
I negotiated a little got it for 218+ tax, so was 250 canadian. I am happy with the price. The odd fellow swords are in this price range. But none i see as nice as mine . or with the chains. Or my favorite part of all the crossed crooks
Double the heka. Double the magic invocation

 

[Joecoins]

I have emailed the head of the local atlantic lodges in Nova Scotia to try and get info on M.C. Barbour.
I intend to speak with some pei historians aswell. And track down a local odd fellow in person.

 

[Joecoins]

1846. Noble Grand Master, Wm. C. Barbour
Quinsigamond lodge, #43, Worcester, Masachusetts
Also was prior vice grand 45_46 , and secretary in 45
Abbreviation. Wm. C. Barbour, i beleive Wm. Stands for Worshipful Master. A tittle for highest position given to free accepted masons in a Scottish Constituted Lodge.

Note patriarchs militant was only formalized in 1885.
At the time of my sword. Encampment was highest position.

 

[Red-Coat]

1846. Noble Grand Master, Wm. C. Barbour
Quinsigamond lodge, #43, Worcester, Masachusetts
Also was prior vice grand 45_46 , and secretary in 45
Abbreviation. Wm. C. Barbour, i beleive Wm. Stands for Worshipful Master. A tittle for highest position given to free accepted masons in a Scottish Constituted Lodge.

Note patriarchs militant was only formalized in 1885.
At the time of my sword. Encampment was highest position.

I think not!

'Wm.' (with a small 'm') was a standard abbreviation for 'William' in those times. Nothing to do with Worshipful Master which, if ever used as an abbreviation, would be 'W.M.' (with a capital 'M').

I don't see a connection between 'M.C. Barbour' and 'Wm. C. Barbour'.

Keep trying.

 

[Jason in Enid]

1846. Noble Grand Master, Wm. C. Barbour
Quinsigamond lodge, #43, Worcester, Masachusetts
Also was prior vice grand 45_46 , and secretary in 45
Abbreviation. Wm. C. Barbour, i beleive Wm. Stands for Worshipful Master. A tittle for highest position given to free accepted masons in a Scottish Constituted Lodge.

Note patriarchs militant was only formalized in 1885.
At the time of my sword. Encampment was highest position.

You are trying way too hard to find some deep meaning in this.

 

[A2coins]

Awesome score thats a beauty

 

[Joecoins]

I think not!

'Wm.' (with a small 'm') was a standard abbreviation for 'William' in those times. Nothing to do with Worshipful Master which, if ever used as an abbreviation, would be 'W.M.' (with a capital 'M').

I don't see a connection between 'M.C. Barbour' and 'Wm. C. Barbour'.

Keep trying.

Thanks for the info, i do think my last post was wrong. And the individual from quinsigamond is not the proper owner of the sword.
Wm. C. Barbour. Is different from M .C. Barbour.

Plus the date of 1846 would be to early , for my suspectected Mary Currie.