Relic MOTHER LOAD- 1600s Spanish, British neck stock, and a CANNON!

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Hey guys,

Been on a bit of a streak lately, scouting out and landing on some of the most productive sites I've ever hunted. After last week's picket post discovery, I decided to branch out and hit the few remaining areas on my radar that did not reflect colonial occupation. Threw out the normal plat map comparisons and just went out hiking to a few spots that remained undiscovered. Needless to say, I've been back 3 times since Sunday and it has been ridiculously productive. I'll start with a bucket lister I've been hoping to dig for some time now - 18th century toy cannon. This one is a bronze alloy and still looks like it would fire (usually these are found with cracks after kids of the 1700s would overload them with powder) :laughing7: Here's fresh out of the plug

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Bit of dry brushing and a coat of wax

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A top 5 find in my relic display without a doubt

When I swung over the next target, I nearly did a back flip...I'm not one for coin shooting, but a Spanish 1 Real cob from the 1600s is not just any coin. Any cob experts please chime in with details on the assayer/age.

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Only a few feet away I going another slamming and out pops a massive 32.5 mm copper (2.4mm thick)

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The size rules out most colonial coins I am aware of, suspect it's part of the same cob spill...see pictures on page 3 - 1722-1723 Rosa Americana 2 pence! No doubt this dirt was occupied far earlier than I expected. Recover another pair of roached silvers, a 17X9 globe and pillar 1/2 real as well as a smooth 1 real (I think).

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When I swung over this target I thought for sure I had a plate - banging 94 on the Deus...out popped a curious piece of copper. I could tell it was marked so wrapped it and brought it back to the truck.

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After a bit of research I realized it was an early thermometer, suspect late 1700s early 1800s. Blood heat, Sum'r Heat, Temp Heat, and Freez :laughing7: Took me 2 days, but I eventually found the missing piece. Don't recall ever seeing one of these posted on Tnet

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The only military pocket I recovered was a small concentration of British rev war relics- pewter button (X 5 regiment), neck stock buckle, and powder horn top.

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Early 1700s rat tail pewter spoon & stamped copper bowl

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Nice assortment of fancy dandy buttons late 18th century

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Definitely get the feeling these folks had money

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Assortment of other buttons (there's more but I'm out of room)

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This one is interesting, can't quite find an exact match online - Holy Mary religious pendent

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Colonial copper ring

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Sling and strap buckles

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Furniture hardware

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Copper ruler fragment

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Leather boss, flintlock side plate

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Think that about covers it...hopefully the pictures speak for themselves. Still in shock with the diversity of finds from an undocumented homesite, clearly occupied heavily in the 17th and 18th century. Between the silver cob, toy cannon, and copper thermometer I could be happier. As always thanks for your comments and good luck digging.

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Long time no talk!!! Amazing finds my friend!!! Haven't been out much at all....there is a Costco sitting on my favorite spot😑😑😑 Hit me up on here so you can get my new #
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Hey Josh, for sure I'll PM for your new contact info
 

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The 'cross' side of the coin resembles a 2 escudo coin from the reign of Carlos II (1665-1700) or a 1,2,4 or 8 escudo from the later reign of Philip V.
But since the coin is not composed of gold, it can't be an escudo.
if it were authentic, it's denomination could be estimated by the coin's weight: 27.46 grams as the standard for a 8 reales or 8 escudo coin; proportionately less for lower denominations of 4, 2, 1 and 1/2.
Don.......

Thanks Don, do 17th century silver cob with a 2 escudos design...is that common?
 

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Congrats on getting the ID on that copper. IP is the man.
Definitely a banner worthy hunt. So many awesome finds.
That cannon is sweet, and definitely on my list.
I have never seen a thermometer like that, that thing is super cool, and in pretty darn nice condition. I love the text on it. You should think about getting that thing restored.
The counterfeit Escudo is sweet too, sucks its not real, but its still pretty neat. And just think if there were counterfeits being passed around on that land, surely there were real ones there too.
Buttons, ruler frag, pendant, ring, spoons, etc, etc, etc.
My vote is going in.

Thanks for the banner nod, yea counterfeit escudos how frickin cool is that
 

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Awesome finds! These are the threads I look forward to! Congrats!! I had to tell you I found a similar thermometer strip this spring. I'll dig it out and post a pic.
Here's some pics of the one found this spring. I didn't know what it was till I got home. Look's like yours is bigger. I looked up the makers name and came across someone who sold medical supplies around 1820. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, buzy with work. You mentioned never seeing one on t-net before and I hadn't either. 100_20401_zpswr03nhtl.JPG 100_20331_zpsjanpd2aq.JPG 100_20341_zps9jos3ugk.JPG 100_20361_zpsuawhahfd.JPG 100_20381_zpsyxoobzue.JPG 100_20371_zpsqpeuz0kz (2).JPG
 

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Whoa! Congrats on all of the goodies. The cannon is a sweet find.
 

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Here's some pics of the one found this spring. I didn't know what it was till I got home. Look's like yours is bigger. I looked up the makers name and came across someone who sold medical supplies around 1820. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, buzy with work. You mentioned never seeing one on t-net before and I hadn't either. View attachment 1617310 View attachment 1617311 View attachment 1617312 View attachment 1617313 View attachment 1617314 View attachment 1617323

Nice find, given the size and script I suspect mine is a little earlier. Looks great in the display
 

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Man oh Man what a killer killer hunt!
 

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Continuing the rally cry for banner vote on the cannon. I believe they're a rare find in the US - more likely to be found in England. It's in great condition. I believe your find was functional owing to the touch hole. They actually fired these toys - the 18th century equivalent of a Red Ryder BB-gun. How often have toy cannons showed up on T-Net? Voting banner now!
 

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Continuing the rally cry for banner vote on the cannon. I believe they're a rare find in the US - more likely to be found in England. It's in great condition. I believe your find was functional owing to the touch hole. They actually fired these toys - the 18th century equivalent of a Red Ryder BB-gun. How often have toy cannons showed up on T-Net? Voting banner now!

Thanks for the kind words and banner nod silver tree, this thing is sweet
 

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My 1722 Rosa Twopence. You can see how it's pitted in a similar way.
 

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Incredible post~!
Awesome Finds...!
Thanks for being so VERY lucky,
as any ONE object, would be something to be proud of!
....AND you have a TON of Stuff - History Preserved....! :thumbsup:
 

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