Rookie - What do you think about these places to start?

mik500

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Hello

I am a beginner and I would like to a ask the experts if they would go the first time digging and panning in one of this places? 5 km away from these places there was a gold mine

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What kind of a gold mine, placer, hardrock, vertical shafts, horizontal shafts??........63bkpkr
 

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Welcome to the net Mik500.
That looks like good river washed rock but kind of hard to tell for sure by the pics. If it is do sone sampling first in several places there before you get too involved. No sence wasting time on dead ground. With a mine near by this could be good placer deposits.

Good Luck!

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mik500

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What kind of a gold mine, placer, hardrock, vertical shafts, horizontal shafts??........63bkpkr

Hi

It was a big placer mine from Roman times

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mik500

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Welcome to the net Mik500.
That looks like good river washed rock but kind of hard to tell for sure by the pics. If it is do sone sampling first in several places there before you get too involved. No sence wasting time on dead ground. With a mine near by this could be good placer deposits.

Good Luck!

B H Prospector

Hi B H Prospector

Next weekend I will do a sampling with my new pan :)

Here is another photo with more detail

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Thank you very muck for your advice

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Roman times.... are you in Italy or Europe? I've been prospecting alot in the last 6 years. Not really an EXPERT yet. That being said, the pics look good to me. Try down stream from where the mine was. Is that river gravel in the pic (white rocks) ? In AZ, the red dirt is said to be best. Red dirt here has more clay and harder to work. I like the sandy soil..... like your pics. I would try classifying up to a bucket (5 gallons ) into a pan. If no "color" try elsewhere. If there was a mine, there must be a mine dump nearby. Some people call the dump "tailings". Look for the dump to ascertain that it was a mine. No dump means no mine. TTC
 

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mik500

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Roman times.... are you in Italy or Europe? I've been prospecting alot in the last 6 years. Not really an EXPERT yet. That being said, the pics look good to me. Try down stream from where the mine was. Is that river gravel in the pic (white rocks) ? In AZ, the red dirt is said to be best. Red dirt here has more clay and harder to work. I like the sandy soil..... like your pics. I would try classifying up to a bucket (5 gallons ) into a pan. If no "color" try elsewhere. If there was a mine, there must be a mine dump nearby. Some people call the dump "tailings". Look for the dump to ascertain that it was a mine. No dump means no mine. TTC


Hello Terry

I am in Europe and that is terciary river gravel at 120 mts height from sea level.

I have found red and blue clay ( I have read about the blue clay ;) ), magnetite, yellow and rose quartz, conglomerates so all indicates to a good place.

No dumping talling visible

Thanks for your advice and I would do what you said

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Mike
 

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Mik, just because you don't SEE the dump, doesn't mean it's not there. Terciary gravels are ALWAYS good! When in Rome, do as the Romans do! (Sorry, I couldn't resist). Look for "hills or banks" that seem out of place. In AZ it's not uncommon for "newbies" to be standing on a dump and not know it because it's overgrown with foliage. I'm not saying you're a newbie, by the way.... just making a point. That terciary gravels should do good for you. Good luck! TTC
 

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And welcome to the net. TTC
 

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mik500

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But I am a newbie :) and I will do like the Romans do

Thank you Terry. If i find anything next weekend I will tell you

I can´t wait to pan ehehe
 

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In that first pic,I can see three distinct layers....something major flooding happened with that middle one....appears to be mud?Volcanic?Take a sample from between each of those layers.If the bottom of that picture is on bedrock take one there of course as well
 

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In that first pic,I can see three distinct layers....something major flooding happened with that middle one....appears to be mud?Volcanic?Take a sample from between each of those layers.If the bottom of that picture is on bedrock take one there of course as well

Hi Kuger

I think there are 2 layers of gravel and the one in the middle was a big alluvial stream. I will take samples of the bottom of the big one in the black areas were I think magnetite is.

I am trying to understand why there are a kind of waves ( high and low gravel) along the cut. Knowing that the main torrent/stream direction was toward the photo I can´t understand how that waves were formed through hydrodinamics. If someone can help me I would be appreciated ;)

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mik500

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here we can see the "waves" that are all along the cut


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.......major flood events
 

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mik500

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Ok. So where are the best places to take samples? the bottom of the gracvel? the black spot? the round spot in picture 1?

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To sample for production one would sample at a verticle cross section to see if there was pay throughout the layer,but just for prospect,def. sample the change over .....in between each layer.
 

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Hi Mik,
You will be doing what all of us here have and that is finding a location where gold has been found before and working it again. Knowing that the Romans worked a placer deposit in the area is the input any of us would have jumped at to start reworking this area. The waves you mention are interesting, things like this could be formed by some type of disturbance in the water such as large rocks either at each wave or upstream that caused eddies in the water causing various heavies to drop out of suspension. Check out any river during high water and you are likely to see disturbances that show on top of the water and those disturbances are doing something underneath the surface as well. Good success with your investigation as you are in the right general location..........63bkpkr
 

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mik500

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Hi

The problem is that it´s impossible to rework the area because it´s protected

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mik500

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Can this be gold? ??? with this shape?

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