Scientist cures cancer...no one notices

[TheRandyMan]

This one is actually worth following up on.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Scientists_cure_cancer__but_no_one_takes_notice

Knowledge is Power!

 

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[spartacus53]

The even sadder part is that even though several have read it, no one made a comment either.

I remember back in the 60's cancer was the big thing and how we would find a cure. Of course I was a kid and also heard the other side, that we would never find a cure becuase there is too much money tied up in research. Take that away and there goes 100's of livelihoods.

Maybe now there is chance, although it may be slim to none...

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

They noticed - they just don't want to CURE anything, if they can help it. What would happen to all those drug companies if people got cured

Back in 1981 (I think it was) a scientist had a research grant from the government - to study the HIV/AIDS virus.

He did this for about 4 years, if I recall correctly. The last stage of his testing, was on chimps. 10 chimps. What the scientist had seen, was that there seemed to be a specific type of bacteria that quite often "hooked" itself to the HIV virus. His theory was that, if the bacteria was with the virus, then full blown AIDS developed. If it didn't have the bacteria, that it stayed in the viral stage. He had already done research on rats and hamsters - so, the next was the chimps. 5 chimps were injected with the HIV virus, without the bacteria. 5 chimps were injected with the HIV virus
WITH the bacteria. An astounding thing happened. All 5 chimps who were injected with the virus and bacteria, got full-blown aids. The 5 that
got the HIV virus without the bacteria, did not get anything. So, he needed to expand his study for the next step. He put in for his funds for the next step, and when the foundation found out that he was NOT looking for a treatment for AIDS, they did not care, one wit, about his 1000 page conclusions - they pulled his funding away from him, and put him out of business. And, of course, the funds came from a drug company. He tried several other drug companies - no go. What's that say? We know we can kill a bacteria, so, it could have been something great. I guess I should tell you that, he originally got the idea because there was a huge study done, and, as it turned out (another thing our government won't tell you), prostitutes - who should have a higher rate of AIDS then the average population - actually had a lower rate. His thought was that prostitutes might either develop an "immunity" to the bacteria, or, because some STD's are common, they got antibiotics more frequently than the average person, thereby killing not just the STD, but also the bacteria that attaches itself to the HIV virus.

As a second example, about 10-15 years ago - I think it was in the Reader's Digest - 2 girls were born to an AIDS mother. Both were infected. For some, unknown reason, within a year or two - both - both girls - were HIV-free. Several scientists asked the family (the mother had died), if they could take blood and tissue from the girls - hoping they had some natural occurring antibody to the virus. The family agreed, since the disease had taken their daughter. Within a year, the government-for some reason - stepped in, and stopped the testing, and effectively had closed the building that the scientists had been working in. (even though the building was not needed for anything else). The scientists involved tried for 2 or 3 years to get someone to finance the research - no drug company would touch it.

Now, we have a man, just a few months ago, who had HIV (not AIDS), and about a month ago, when tested - he had absolutely NO virus count in his body. Nothing - 0. Let's see if we can get some drug company to fund testing this time - the man has volunteered anything they need.

The drug companies do not want to give up their $2,100 a month "treatments", times about a million folks who have HIV in this country alone,
why would they want to give up $2,100,000,000 per month - by curing it?

Beth

 

[TheNewCatfish]

Few people know AIDS was created by pharmaceutical industry. Back in the 1950's people wanted to irradicate common diseases from Africa. You know, bring First World medicine to the Third World. Only problem was, they were only willing to do it on the cheap. So instead going the tried and true method of shipping in birds or eggs to create smallpox vaccine, (diseases are less likely to cross genetic barriers between unrelated species without some unlikely major mutation, hence the use of avian product to create human vaccine), they had locals trap 500 chimpanzees instead. The smallpox vaccine produced in this manner was far cheaper and it was also deadly. The area in the Congo where the smallpox vaccination took place is exactly the same area where AIDS originated.

Of course pharmaceutical companies started immediately funding scientific research to figure out how Africans EATING wild chimpanzees might have spawned the AIDS epedemic. However Africans have been trapping, cooking and eating chimpanzees for thousands of years.. But lets don't confuse the issue with facts.

So Thankyou World Health Organization and pharmaceutical companies for giving mankind the worst plague of the 21st Century.

A similar case of mass death caused by stupidity and greed occured when a commercial jet liner exploded mid air off the shore of New Jersey some time ago. There were all sort of investigations looking for everything from terrorists with surface to air missiles or even one of our own military aircraft shooting down the plane. After ten years someone finally concludes the airlines weren't fully filling the planes fuel tanks (leaving room for explosive vapor) and not replacing frayed or damaged wiring running through the fuel tanks. KABOOM ! In the meantime the airlines eliminate FREE inflight meals and carry on luggage and double their ticket prices, while we sit trapped on commercial planes like prisoners waiting for 5 hours because of flight delays. And nobody seems to care. Especially our own Congress men and women, who we keep electing over and over again. Crazy, huh ?

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Alot of what gets done is insane. (at best).

But, I have to disagree on a point or two.

The problem with the eating of chimps comes in the WAY they are eaten - they are eaten raw - with brain tissue being the best delicacy - which is why certain diseases can be spread - as opposed to those who eat chimpanzee meat COOKED. They even have special little tables, with a hole in the middle that moves. The chimp is put into this thing, the hole is closed up, trapping the chimp's head. Then, the "diners" hit the chimp in the head with mallets until the skull cracks open, then, they eat the brain, like out of a bowl. It's disgusting, but, true. When the expensive diners are done, the rest of the chimp is carved up by the restaurant.

So, there is your differences in eating chimps. It can cause many diseases in the humans that eat raw chimp brains.

Also - you do know that we don't vaccinate using actual smallpox, right? We use a genetically altered cowpox.

In addition, there is a school of thought - and it certainly has it's points - that AIDS has actually been around for thousands of years - it just wasn't recognized. For the last 20 years, they have been going through old deaths, and have found that aids killed people YEARS before we ever knew it existed. "Consumption" has now been found to include cancer, tuberculosis and aids.

If you want to REALLY get disgusting - but a medical fact - they have been able to reproduce the HIV virus. (actually, something very similar).
You take a mixture of fecal bacteria, mix it with oral bacteria, and culture it - and, you get................a sub-class of bacteria that has viral properties, formally, unknown. Think about it. It will turn your stomach - but it would certainly explain alot.

Beth

 

[Dano Sverige]

The article is from 2007. According to the comments below it, it's all just so much HS!

 

[Kentucky Kache]

They noticed - they just don't want to CURE anything, if they can help it. What would happen to all those drug companies if people got cured

I believe that's exactly what's going on. And it's a shame.
Why is it they don't like herbal medicines?

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Mrs Oroblanco, catfish all of ya'll, thanks you for the info and taking the time to posts. I did read the original link, when it was first put up. I also put a link up, under thinking of you, about the new cancer drug Yervoy. The odds ain't the greatests, but, much much research, developements, and advancements are being made.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,398333.0.html

While I am no doctor or scientists, I have for too long, held the hands of many suffering.
So YES, I would love to see these new discoveries and cures brought to light, and shared amongst all in the world suffering. Hiv/aids, cancers, hepetitis c, are the three, imo, we could overcome, through these new discoveries and science, but the Pharm comp's see no profit it in? It's always about the dollar, never about people.
That's the bitterest pill for me to swallow, and then have to still feel, I can do nothing about it.

I have a neighbor, whose sister, is in stage 4 pleurall (pleura) cancer, after many other cancers. The drug they have her on, is one of the specifically targetted med's for her type cancer.(i can't remember the drug name, I'll try to remember to ask neighbor later) Her scan before the drug, showed her whole chest area, (the pleura) just "peppered" with tumors. After a few drug sessions, the tumors have been disappearing and reducing. Ye hold our collective breath.

I say, quit supporting false idols, sports heroes, and gangsters! Don't they get enough adoration in the form of a paycheck, and we still can't throw enough of our hard earned money at them!?
Lift up and support those in this world, who are trying to do the same, in lifting up others. Heroes don't all wear suits, football jersys and carry guitars. They usually work silently, and quitely, where few may ever see.

Someone out there, give us some ideas to do better, in these areas, please.
What can john/jane q public do, to shed light on these types things, to better ourselves, and our fellow man?

 

[TheRandyMan]

The article is from 2007. According to the comments below it, it's all just so much HS!

Here is the link connected with the story. I present it as another step in acquiring knowledge...not as the end all and be all. Make of it what you will and continue your research.

http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2007-03-15_Update.cfm

 

[mamabear]

one thing I brought out of my crazy hippie / activist days is the knowledge that there are 2 sides to every story. It's easy to pass judgement without research,'specially when the "facts" are "common knowledge" I'm not saying no one is to blame, or that pharmaceutical Co's. (or heck just a lot of people in general) are not greedy & deceitful, but there has to be a balance to arguments or no one will listen. Question, read, talk, research. what ever it takes. yes knowledge is power.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hola, having had terminal neck cancer some 8 years ago, this is a sensitive subject with me. I commenced an intensive search for 14 + hrs a day, in research of almost every form of treatment, both accepted , alternate, and rejected. I now have over 1000 hrs in researching and study.

I finally taught myself the Carey Reams Protocol, and added Cesium Chloride to successfully eliminate my cancer. My cancers are 'cured', not controlled. My case has has been proudly shown to various Oncologists meetings as their golden boy, proof of what surgery alone can do ?? I have never mentioned what I did.

Unfortunately, yes, to buy time, I did accept surgery, a huge mistake, but since the submandibular gland cancer was especially aggressive, growing at the rate of 1/16 - 1/8 an inch weekly, even growing up the three needle biopsy channels, and since I also had two others, one on my lower right lip from too much tropical sun, and the other in the muscles in the front of my left thigh, opposite the hip bone, and, as the VA was getting a bit impatient with me since I had refused twice before, it was suggested that there were others waiting, I yielded, and they performed all three operations the same day. They gave me a radical neck dissection, Beth knows what that means. Normally one needs a neck brace for the rest of their life, but I succeeded in growing new neck muscles and have full control of my head, How ?? They want to know.

I flatly refused chem and radiation to their horror.

Relax Beth, I now have a very sexy leer, can't raise my right arm over shoulder height, anchorage via the scapular was lost and it is free, it shifts to the front of the shoulder, and walk with a very weakend left leg, almost a limp. and am almost useless for climbing. Now you see where Roy fits in ? he hehehe.

But to put everything in proper prospective, yes, there are any no of treatments out there that are effective, which depends upon your state of
health. My Cesium Chloride / Reams treatment cost me about $100 dollars US. I have passed on the protocol to others, several that tried it as a last extreme, are now alive and cured, not controlled, but cured.

This system that Randy posted about is fascinating since it makes complete sense. I would like to hear more.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Here is an interesting article - today.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelo...helookout/first-man-functionally-cured-of-hiv


Beth


PS: My grandfather did something similar - throat cancer - given a few months to live. He went to a place he knew - and came back a few months later. (I'm not going to say where). Well, he did die - several years later, from a heart attack, with absolutely no sign of the throat cancer.

Also, the doctor who delivered my daughter had terminal cancer. He went away somewhere too - when he came back, he came back looking better than he had looked in 2 years - and lived another 12-14 years - we do NOT have the best health system. We have a higher infant mortality rate than many other countries, including a few third world countries.

We treat, we do not cure.

 

[TheNewCatfish]

I was cured many years ago of terrible allergy problems. I had headaches that were so bad, the pain left me unable to work and I was in agony for days. I ate benadryle like M&M's. Then one day a co-worker who raised bees on the side gave me a jar of honey. His instuctions were simple, one tablespoon twice a week for two months. Then he said an unbelievable thing. "After that, you'll be CURED". I followed his advise and the effect was immediate and miraculous. Over a dozen other people I knew with similar conditions were likewise cured.

Last year I moved to another part of the country and the headaches returned. Mountain Cedar pollen this time. I sought out a local bee keeper and bought a jar of honey. Same result. Instantaneously cured. Somehow injesting the pollen in the honey had the opposite effect of breathing it and my body was able to become immune to the effects of the pollen.

If you try this remedy, let me caution you to be wary of store bought honey. Set a jar of that stuff on the counter for a week and you'll notice the added sugar collecting at the bottom. No telling what else they're adding to it, but the store bought honey, (no matter how locally its produced) once processed commercially is rendered totally ineffective. I tried store brands and they don't work. Farmers markets usually carry the good stuff.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

I cannot really vouch for store bought honey, but, raw honey from the hives will, if let sit, crystalize - without adding anything. The way to re-constitute it is to warm it in a double boiler (not hot), then stir it all back up again.

Beth


PS - never let children lick honey off a spoon - it can poison them

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

There was a show I watched on HBO years back. I hope someone else saw it. It was called Halsey's Cure or Haxey's Cure I dont remember. It was about a guy (not a scientist) who found a cure for cancer after watching his sick horse eating a certain plant. He made an ointment also a drink from the plant. It was a great 2 or 3 hour HBO documentary with many cured cancer patients telling their stories. He said he didnt want any drug company making profits off of his discovery and insisted it be given free. As you can guess he couldnt get FDA approval being banished to Mexico. It only aired 1x. It was pulled from television forever banished. Never to be seen again..

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Morning big cyp: go to Google and enter --> Hoxeys cancer treatment. some 25,000 posts on it.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Tuberale]

There was a show I watched on HBO years back. I hope someone else saw it. It was called Halsey's Cure or Haxey's Cure I dont remember. It was about a guy (not a scientist) who found a cure for cancer after watching his sick horse eating a certain plant. He made an ointment also a drink from the plant. It was a great 2 or 3 hour HBO documentary with many cured cancer patients telling their stories. He said he didnt want any drug company making profits off of his discovery and insisted it be given free. As you can guess he couldnt get FDA approval being banished to Mexico. It only aired 1x. It was pulled from television forever banished. Never to be seen again..

I apoligize for the length of this post in advance.

If you have been diagnosed with cancer, seek assistance from certified oncologists (cancer specialists). Learn the specific form of cancer you have. Write it down. You may be able to find an effective treatment on-line your physician or oncologist has not heard of.

I am not a doctor.

I think bigcypresshunter may be talking about Harry Hoxey who developed a cancer treatment about 1930. Hoxey's formula was controversial, (I would say deadly) because he used known deadly-poisonous mercury compounds. If you survived the cancer, the formula likely would kill you. At the least you would get very ill. BTW, Hoxey's cancer formula is the derivation of "hoax".

A friend was diagnosed with breast cancer 15 years ago. She reduced her tumor size from 38mm to 6mm in 6 months using a "non-Hoxey" formula. She used several fungi, including one called "enokitake" or "enoki". According to the World Health Organization the lowest incidence of breast cancer in the world among men and women is a small prefecture of northern Japan. It produces the majority of Japanese enokitake. If farmers don't sell it, they often eat it themselves.

Enoki has been cultivated for centuries. Except for breast cancer, it has no known medicinal effects.

I recently purchased a 4 oz. package of enoki for a 90-year-old friend who has just been diagnosed with breast cancer. Told her she needed to eat a 1-3 enoki a day. (Active ingredient is actually more powerful.) BTW, you can research this on-line as well as I can. Scientific name for enokitake is Flammulina velutipes, or Velvet Foot in most of the United States. When grown in CO2-rich conditions the mushrooms form long stems. In normal conditions the fungi are 2-3 inches tall and 1-2 inches across the cap. Normal Flammulina velutipes looks nothing like cultivated enokitake, yet they are the same species.

Cost: a 4-ounce package of enokitake costs as little as 78c from a local Korean grocery store, or $5 from a larger local supermarket. Either package should keep for 2-3 months refrigerated. Effective dosage is measured in micrograms per kilogram of body weight.

I believe most physicians care about patients. I also believe most physicians have been taught to be mycophobic: afraid of anything fungal. Paul Stamets' "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms" is a good source of scientific citations on this and other fungi. I would also check into any book written by Dr. Andrew Weil, as well as "Mushrooms: Poisons and Panaceas" by Dr. Denis Benjamin.

I hear there are 250+ forms of cancer. Cure rates for many are low. You must become your own cancer specialist. Require medical proof of cure before starting proposed treatment. If a physician tells you about "treatment", ask about "cures." A
"treatment" is often doctor-speak for symptom control, which has little to do with cure.

Dr. Andrew Weil has stated at 80% of prescriptions written in the U.S. are "at best" bad for you, and at worst "counterindicated". Counterindicated prescriptions can aggravate a disease; or kill.

The patient must learn the difference.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Good post.

Just an added thought - besides the "do your homework" message.

There is something to be said for combination treatments also - just because a treatment is unconventional, does not mean that it doesn't work.

However, if you are getting conventional treatment - and it is working - it doesn't mean you abandon it, either. Its all about doing whatever it takes to achieve the desired results - a cure.

Scientists have known for YEARS that, even in ancient medicine, things worked - they didn't know why, but it worked, in many cases. Who'd have thought that aspirin is in birchbark? Or that the seeds of certain veggies and fruits actually have anti-cancer benefits - but they do. Many of the old medicine-man type treatments actually have, not only a basis in truth, but our pharmaceutical companies USE these things in making medicines.

And, there is always something to be said for folks who live long, healthy lives even though they do all those things that they tell us not to do.
Why the non-smoker gets lung cancer, but the smoker doesn't, etc. It has to do with genetics, lifestyle and diet.

Beth

 

[Tuberale]

I agree with most of your post (and thanks for the compliment).

However.

Birch does not contain acetylsalicytic acid (aka aspirin) that I know of. Originally derived from willow. Scientific name for willow is Salix, of the Salicaceae family.

Scientific name for birch is Betula, from the Betulaceae family.

Sorry if I'm pendantic.

 

[ivan salis]

you cure a person of a disease --the money stops --you treat a person for the disease's symptoms the money goes on and on and on ....... so why cure and get paid only once ---when you can treat disease symptoms long term and make cash hand over fist over and over again ? --from a strictly its all about the money "busineess" veiw point your "losing money" by curing folks.