Shotgun and Holster

ConnerBates123

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Today has had way too many storms locally for me to metal detect (I attempted to, but it was not worth it for the rusty nails and cans I kept finding) so I decided to explore some buildings on my grandfather's property to see what I could find. I found various items (Including a large Coca-Cola sign, a smaller Jumbo Cola sign, both of which have sat in the building for at least 40 years) but what really caught my eye was a shotgun I found sitting in the corner of the building behind tons of boxes. Patent date on the shotgun says 1913, but I suspect it was produced sometimes in the 1920s. I also found a pistol holster, but for what type of pistol I am not sure. I included some pictures of the components on the holster, I hope some of you can tell me from around what time period it comes from, as no one, not even my grandfather, knows where the holster came from. I feel as if, even though I did not get any big finds metal detecting, it would seem I still found items to make me happy with the day! (As a note, on the holster, I cleaned it, and the strap went down to the brown leather, it is not added to the holster)
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What did you G'father say about the shotgun? Besides being a break action, single shot, it looks like from the 40's or 50's. But, that could just be rust. Is there any markings on the barrel?
The holster is for a revolver, not a pistol.
 

I think you mean that it is for a revolver not an automatic. Both are pistols.

Mike
 

The shotgun could be by any of who knows how many makers... Pretty much everyone made that style. Are there any other markings other than the patent date on it either on the receiver or barrel? I suspect based on the trigger guard and the location of the screws that it's a Stevens "Old Timer". It could also be a "Hardware Store Gun" made by Stevens but marked differently and sold through Sears or some other store under their name. It's a shame the fore stock is gone, but they are out there if you want to replace it. If you can find a serial number we might be able to date it. Here's one to compare it to.... Stevens Single Shot Shotgun 16 Gauge Old Timer, C&R OKAY LK For Sale at GunAuction.com - 10148124
 

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Might be a risky gun to own if the barrel is less than 16" or "sawed off" that would make it a class 3 weapon of when choosing requires paper work and would get you into a world of hurt if authorities ever ran across it. Hopefully it's longer than 16" and congrats and a super duper find!!!!!
 

Do you have any clues or how I could discover around the age of the holster? Noone is sure where it came from
 

I did find a marking on the shotgun, you are correct NOLA_Ken, it does appear to have the markings for a Stevens Single Shot Shotgun. I can't seem to read a serial number anywhere on the shotgun due to a light surface rust that has appeared on the shotgun over the years. I do believe it came from somewhere between 1913-1930s just because the owner lived from around 1860 until sometimes in the mid 1930s.
 

Lol Pedersen I forgot I did not post a picture of the entire shotgun. It appears to have its full length, although it will take some work to get it back into an operable condition (considering the barrel falls of when I open it as if loading it). It has a light surface rust on it, shouldn't be too hard of a fix. Trying to think of a display I could put together with it.
 

About the age of the holster....only found one marking, an anchor stamped onto the back of the buckle on the front of the holster
 

About the age of the holster....only found one marking, an anchor stamped onto the back of the buckle on the front of the holster

nice holster, what did you use to clean strap
see if your buckle is here, does the anchor look the same

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Holster appears to be 1880-1900 and has been repaired. Very popular design, made to carry colts and other 6 shooters. 4 3/4 to 5 1/2 inch barrel length Single Action Army Colt. Can't tell if it could handle 7" or not. Still popular today and is made by many people. SASS folks will pay top dollar, but repair affects value. Had a couple in the past along with several Colt's. Gone now...
 

I'd like to see the coca cola sign! That could be the real treasure? Was it tin or porcelain by chance?
 


I wiped it off with a wet rag all over to get some of the dirt and dust off of it, the black came right of the leather on the strap. Sure wish it hadnt. The anchor looks about the same.
 

Holster appears to be 1880-1900 and has been repaired. Very popular design, made to carry colts and other 6 shooters. 4 3/4 to 5 1/2 inch barrel length Single Action Army Colt. Can't tell if it could handle 7" or not. Still popular today and is made by many people. SASS folks will pay top dollar, but repair affects value. Had a couple in the past along with several Colt's. Gone now...

Thank you for giving a time period, I was wondering that for figuring out what display I may make out of it. I don't have a Western display, so, hey, might be my next project!
 

I'd like to see the coca cola sign! That could be the real treasure? Was it tin or porcelain by chance?

I believe both signs I found (Coke and Jumbo Cola) were both porcelain. If you want I will take a pic of them next chance I get and let you have a look at them....im thinking about using them in a display for old General Stores with some old food cans on a shelf and these signs hanging above that
 

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maybe put some saddle soap on that strap
 

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Congrats on the guns! Way cool!!!


Sent from a spun out toilet paper tube (one ply)!
 

NORMAN WHERE DID YOU FIND THE GUN ? NO MOTHER IT BELONGED TO GRANDFATHER AND I WILL NOT PUT IT BACK . DAMN COOL FIND ALONG WITH THE HOLSTER .
 

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