SILVER REALE 4

[Peg Leg]

I was offered a SILVER REALE 4 coin a few days ago. But doing some reasech on this coin I did not find a single coin anywhere that was stamped with a Roman numeral IV. All the ones I came across were either stamped a 4 or IIII but not with a IV.
Is this coin a fake?
Thanks
PEGLEG

 

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[Trez]

Peg,

What is the reign of the coin (reales) in question?
also...if not asking to much, how about the Mint visible? assayer visible? legend? anything other than your first description you have given...I know a photo would be asking for too much, but I'll ask anyway.


Trez

 

[Peg Leg]

tREZ,
I have not purchased it so a photo is not available but here it the rest of what you asked for:
DATE: 1722
REIGN: Phillip V
ASSAYER: A
MINT: R over M
The IV is above the assayers mark
It was not a cobbed coin

 

[Trez]

Peg,

Was there a small crown over the M ? R small crown M.
How about a portrait or bust facing either left or right? Pillars on the other side?
I need as much detail as possible, because so far...I have found nothing.
I don't know if it is even Spanish.......

Trez

 

[Peg Leg]

Trez,
There is a small crown between the R and the M.
There is no bust and no pillars.
It is SPANISH.
There is a cross on the front side with the words HISPANIARUM -REX 1722.
On the shield side there are the words -PHIIIPPUS-V-D-G.
The part that caught my eye was that there were no L's in PH III PUS.
The shield matches the the shield of Phillip V. In fact the only thing that does not match is the number 4 .
You know this is really starting to get to me it seems that everything that comes my way creates controversy even when I find the item myself.
I just do not have the time to spend researching EVERYTHING I touch ::
PEGLEG

 

[Trez]

You know this is really starting to get to me it seems that everything that comes my way creates controversy even when I find the item myself.


I could not have said it any better...lol


Let me check my sources and see what we can come up with for you...
not today...OK?

Time to get ready for the big game.

Trez

 

[Peg Leg]

Trez,
Thanks
PEGLEG

 

[Peg Leg]

Morning Trez,
Did you fimd anything about the silver REALE 4 that is stamped with a IV instead of a 4?
I think I might ask Dan Sedwick if he has any information on this coin.
Thanks
Peg Leg

 

[Mackaydon]

Peg Leg:
And its not Mexican, which contains the number "4" with assayer "J".
Don......

 

[Peg Leg]

I have decided not to purchase this coin.
I have enough problems with the gold coins that I FOUND.
PER LEG

 

[Peg Leg]

I have discovered that the number 4 was used in the following,
4, IIII, IV.
I still do not want to purchase this coin.
Peg Leg