✅ SOLVED Some kind of lead seal. Any info?

wuteverdude

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Edit: I believe I have enough info to mark this solved. I know who made it and approximately when. The front just says "lead seal" and a number. It's very interesting it has a star of David on it.

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I found this in an 1836 yard. Very close to civil war bullets and items.
This yard has produced stuff from just about every era. I found in the back part (300' away) a palestine coin from the 1930s and with this having I believe a star of David on it, wasn't owned by the same person around that time.
It is a lead seal of some kind. Has two holes on the top rim and bottom rim for wire? To go through.

I have found a few older bale seals on this property but this one is perfectly circular and doesn't appear hand pressed like the old ones.

I have been so far unsuccessful at identifying it or reading all of it.

Let me know what yall think!
I appreciate any help as always.
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wuteverdude

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So Quick update.
I was able to finally desern the back portion to read the following:
"Jas Murdock Jr.
Pressed & Twisted wires
Cincinnati"

With this information I found the following information on the manufacturer.

If I can figure out what the front (with star) says I think I'll have it narrowed down very well!

Should be 1869-1906 from that company date (listed as Jas instead of James)
 

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Hbot37

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So Quick update.
I was able to finally desern the back portion to read the following:
"Jas Murdock Jr.
Pressed & Twisted wires
Cincinnati"

With this information I found the following information on the manufacturer.

If I can figure out what the front (with star) says I think I'll have it narrowed down very well!

Should be 1869-1906 from that company date (listed as Jas instead of James)
Its a very cool seal.
 

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invent4hir

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While I didn't figure out the front, here is some info about him on find-a-grave...

Business Executive, Union Civil War Veteran Soldier. A native of Ireland, he emigrated to America and settled in Cincinnati, Ohio. After completing his formal education there, he entered the stamp cutting business with the John Stanton Company. During the Civil War, he volunteered to serve in the Union Army and enlisted with a hundred day regiment, the 137th Ohio National Guard Infantry. He was mustered into Company K as a Private and was later transferred to the regimental staff as a Principal Musician and Fife Major. The regiment was used primarily for defensive and fatigue duty. They were organized at Camp Dennison in May of 1864 and sent to Baltimore, Maryland. Murdock participated with the regiment and helped to guard garrisons at Forts McHenry, Federal Hill, Marshall, and Carroll. After the war, he returned to work with his previous employer at Cincinnati. He later bought out Stanton with a business partner, W. M. Spencer, and the business became the James Murdock, Jr. Company in 1906. He retired in 1911 and turned the company over to his son, Winslow Murdock. He died in Price Hill near Cincinnati in 1924 when he was 85 years old. His older brother, Luke Murdock, who also served in the Civil War, was an officer with the 10th Ohio Volunteer Infantry.

Here is his record on FamilySearch...https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/KN1K-DRZ
 

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