The stunning conclusion of unknown ring find: Does platinum oxidize?

Crispin

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I would like to thank everbody for their input. I have learned a lot in the last week. When I first found my ring I thought I had junk, next I thought it was silver, and then I thought it was platinum. After more input and research I then thought I had silver again, and then junk again (no thanks to the idiots at Tiffany's in Mall of Millenia Orlando.) I pulled out my old chemistry textbooks, ran an experiment, and when all else failed...went to a Pawn Shop.

The stamp 950 almost exclusively means platinum. It can mean other things but this is very uncommon. So why didn't I believe my ring was platinum? Answer: platinum does not tarnish(oxidize) and my ring was oxidized. Most searches on the internet will tell you that gold and platinum do not oxidize. This is only partially true. Platnium does not oxidize at normal air or water temperatures. Thus, I could not have platinum, right? Wrong... PV = nRT or pressure x volume = moles x constant x temperature. When applying this to chemical reactions one can assume that as pressure increases then temperature decreases. So, where in the world can one find high enough pressures to get platinum to oxidize? Answer: at the bottom of the ocean.

So, platinum can be oxidized (tarnished) and exist in the tarnished state. Here is a link to Platinum(II)Oxide or PtO2:
Platinum Oxide | Platinum Oxide

One can convert platinum oxide back to platinum by cleaning and soaking it in household ammonium, which I did. After doing all this research I took my ring a pawn shop where the attendant was thoroughly confused and convinced it was not platinum. She called the manager, who then called the owner, who then called the person they send to melt the metal. After running some basic tests in the shop they offered me half-market value for platinum at a ring weight of 9.6grams....I turned them down.

End result: my first ring find was platinum, yeah!!!
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austin

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I feel vindicated. And yes, I have seen platinum that needed polishing(a friend's diving watch) and it was a bear to clean. Once again, way to go.
 

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Congrats! BUT 9.6 grams? Platinum is heavy. Unless you have really tiny fingers that ring should weigh a lot more. Just an observation. I hope it is in fact plat because that would be a very cool find.
 

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First, I have no idea what you have? I have, however, seen gold take on a rust color, or tarnish. I've also seen some low grade 10k and lower discolor around the impurities of the added metals. What is really odd to me is that none of the precious metal buyers/refineries I just checked even show a 950 option on any of the precious metal calculators they offer. So if it is platinum it must be a rare standard. :dontknow: But you would think someone out there would definitely be able to positively I.D. the ring. But if it tested platinum, well......must be platinum then. Interesting mystery for sure.
 

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Crispin

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It is a small ring. I think the photos are decieving...I can't even get it around my pinky.
 

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Crispin, If you really think your ring is PLAT. Heat it with a cutting tourch ,if it melts it's silver ,if it doesn't and you can get it white hot without meltting it's PLAT.You can't get a cutting tourch hot enough to melt PLAT.and as far as Platinum Oxide it boils at 450 degress
 

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Very interesting info , Crispin!

And congratulations on a terrific find!

Lorraine
 

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Nice find. Congratulations!!
 

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Yup! what you said!............lol HH
 

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Keep the faith man..... if the pawn shop said it Pl then you would think they have a way to know. Ive not heard you mention a jewelery store. Wow Ron when in doubt. bust out the ole torch.

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Nice find. Congratulations!!
 

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wow, that ended so well - happy to be wrong about it being silver :)
 

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I bought a test kit on line for 20 dollars,it tests plat gold and silver,you should look into one.:icon_thumleft:
 

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Thanks for the update. Platinum, wow! Again, congrats on a terrific find.

I have tiny fingers...hint, hint...:laughing9:

Anita
 

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