Trail to First inhabitants of America

Midnightrider08

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I'm not sure this has anything to do with treasure but I have a good theory I think about something.

The other night I was watching a Tv show about what the first person in North America might have looked like and they came to the conclussion that the very first people here were from many different places and not from siberia and the land/ice bridge that we learned in school. They showed how they could have followed the kelp lines and made there way to either Pacific or Atlantic coast or both at same time.

This got me thinking. There's the Old man in the Sea at York , Me by looking at maps and takeing a guess I can conclude that they could have made it upstream so to speak to Franconia Notch, NH where the Old man of the Mountain (Discovered by white man 1805 but spoken of in Indian legend 200 yrs earlier in 1604) was proceded by The Flume downstream which had huge Rock suspended at one time. The Old man of the Mountain looked toward the Old Man of the Sea if I am undertsanding my directions correctly. To the East in VT of Franconia Notch NH via more rivers and streams one will find Mount Mansfield and Smugglers Notch where one can find Elephant Rock, and further East down into the champlain valley by more rivers across the Big Pond of Lake Champlain one can find another Elephant Rock Formation at Ausable Forks, NY .

That is where I have gone cold for the time being but IMO these are not nessecarily Glacier rock formations and could have been Markers to a trail from maybe the earliest inhabitants of the New England area to come from the Sea.

I think it's a bit Naive to think that all these natural rock formations and many many many more not mentioned are concentrated like this and can easily be seen as a trail of sorts when placeing them in line to the ocean via waterways and trails that are evident in history .

Where the trail goes I don't know , but elephant remains have been found in NY & NJ , Whales in VT , Spanish Gold in a Cave in VT/NY area along with a spanish helmet on the shores of lake champlain and the Indians in this area were known to have jewelry made of silver prior to white man being here.

I'm pretty certain somebody knew alot more about the riches of this area long before we ever will and made use of it. Maybe the Treasure is in the Adirondack Mtns of NY. I bet my money some of the oldest human remains ever found in United States will be found in NY.

I also know of a Elephant formation Out west and was wondering if the pacific coast has any Old man in the Sea formation as well ?

Any ideas , input , or just want to tell me I've lost my marbles ?
 

cactusjumper

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MRider,

I believe you have probably placed your post in the wrong forum, which may be why you have had no response.

"Indians in this area were known to have jewelry made of silver prior to white man being here".

I don't believe there was any silver jewelry north of MesoAmerica prior to European exploration.


[In most of aboriginal North America, true metallurgy was unknown; the majority of Indians merely cold-hammered chunks of native copper produced in almost pure form by nature. There were no true mines with underground tunnels and subterranean caverns north of Mexico. Copper used by Indians in this area was obtained on the surface or from shallow pits which were dug to recover metal which at first had been seen from the surface. The largest deposits of native copper were on the southern shore of Lake Superior, and from this locality the metal and the objects made from it were traded hundreds of miles. There were other copper deposits, however, in the Appalachian mountains and here and there on the Atlantic Coast from New Jersey to Nova Scotia. Farther north, the source of copper centered in two regions: southeast Alaska, and the central Arctic on the Coppermine, River, which flows into the Arctic Ocean. There were many other local deposits of less magnitude.

Early observers have left us many accounts in many localities of indigenes beating out lumps of copper into desired shapes with nothing more than a stone. One ambitious museum curator demonstrated conclusively that all of the types of copper objects from the eastern United States could be made in this crude manner. However, some specialists believe that Indians north of Mexico might have used an additional technique known as annealing. This is merely heating the metal to the point where some of the brittleness produced by the pounding is eliminated.

The majority of objects made from native copper north of Mexico were body ornaments: beads, ear ornaments, head and breast plates, necklaces, bracelets, anklets, and even copper embroidery on hide clothing. There is some argument about the utility of the head and breast plates. Although some of these might conceivably have deflected a missile, most were too thin to have been really effective as armor. At the same time a fair number of tools were made of native copper, especially near the source of supply where large quantities of the metal were available. As distance from the source of supply increased, the value tended to rise until ultimately the copper was regarded as a precious metal suitable only for jewelry. The list of utilitarian objects includes knives, axe blades, adze blades, spear points, arrow heads, chisels, hooks, ice-picks, needles, and drinking cups. On the Northwest Coast a large copper plate of stylized shape and design came to be an object of great value and a symbol of great prestige attainable only by chiefs and rich men.

A single band of Eskimos, the Polar Eskimos, who are the northernmost people on earth, hammered out meteoric iron obtained locally into spear points and knives. Arrowheads were made of the same material after the bow was reintroduced to them in the nineteenth century. In the historic period, natives on all coasts eagerly sought timbers from wrecked European ships for the iron bolts and nails which could be easily extracted by burning the planks. Such iron was worked principally by cold hammering.

A few copper objects have been mentioned by early observers and found by archaeologists in the Southwest. They consist mostly of body ornaments, which were much less numerous than those in the Prairies and East and first appeared at a later date. The most complex type of copper object was a "sleigh" type of bell of thin-walled copper with slits and a copper pellet inside. All of these objects except the bells seem to have been made by cold hammering. The bells, on the other hand, are regarded by experts as having been cast by the lost wax method. It is generally thought that they were obtained in trade from Mexico and not made locally. The earliest of these date from A.D. 900-1100, but they were not common until the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. Just how far north in Mexico this technique was practiced remains a problem, because the bells have been found all along the West Coast route from southern Mexico to northern New Mexico.]
Comparative Studies of North American Indians. Contributors: Harold E. Driver - author, William C. Massey - author.

Native Americans began trading for jewelry with Europeans in the 1500s. I have read that the Mohawks created and traded lead and pewter ornaments with other tribes prior to that time. The pewter seems unlikely.

Joe Ribaudo
 

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