Trash pit found at colonial era farm with wine seal marked clay pipes and more

Chief31

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Found another trash pit at the 700 acre property I hunt on and off in Central Virginia this is the 3rd pit at this property. Some beautiful pottery pieces and finally found my first colonial wine seal which seems to represent the owner T Todd!! Super cool piece . The pipes are marked TD with a number 4 . Early buckle was in the pit as well. Nice bone handle fork. The one piece livery button was found somewhere else on the property. Thinking the pit is early to mid 1700s? But the buckle I think may me earlier
 

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smokeythecat

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Very, very nice. You are right about the buckle, say very late 17th century. The clay pipes have large bowls and are classic 1770's period. The white pottery is mid 18th century salt glaze, say 1760's. The blue and white is classic delft and mid 18th century. Keep all of it!
 

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Found another trash pit at the 700 acre property I hunt on and off in Central Virginia this is the 3rd pit at this property. Some beautiful pottery pieces and finally found my first colonial wine seal which seems to represent the owner T Todd!! Super cool piece . The pipes are marked TD with a number 4 . Early buckle was in the pit as well. Nice bone handle fork. The one piece livery button was found somewhere else on the property. Thinking the pit is early to mid 1700s? But the buckle I think may me earlier
Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!
 

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Chief31

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Very, very nice. You are right about the buckle, say very late 17th century. The clay pipes have large bowls and are classic 1770's period. The white pottery is mid 18th century salt glaze, say 1760's. The blue and white is classic delft and mid 18th century. Keep all of it!
Great info thanks buddy appreciate it
 

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Nice bunch of finds.
I'll just add the Button is what you call a Sports Button from the mid-19th C (Backmark would narrow down date) I call a Hunts Button. A Livery button would have a roped (forgot technical term) base, yours just represents the ground the standing stag & sitting deer are on.
 

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Definitely an old trash pit from what you're finding. The oldest ones I find around me are from the very late 19th century when folks first settled the area. Seems folks stopped dumping in them by the early 1970s. Evidence of 8 track cassettes left me with that determination.
 

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Great pit dig !! Love the seal. We're also finding Sport hunting buttons on an early site like yours with London backmarks.
 

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Killer hunt!!!!! Congratz
 

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Great finds.

For the period in which the pipe was made, there were two makers using the ā€˜TDā€™ mark, for which the most likely is Thomas Dormer of London, in operation from c.1748-c.1770. The other possibility is Thomas Dennis of Bristol, in operation from c.1734-c.1781, but I think thatā€™s a Dormer mark.

[Note that from c.1848, McDougall of Glasgow also used ā€˜TDā€™ marks, which later became a generic for higher quality pipes and was then used by others (including American makers) trading on McDougallā€™s reputationā€¦but thatā€™s clearly not a mid-19th century pipe.]

As @CRUSADER says, the stag button is a ā€˜sportingā€™ button, not a ā€˜liveryā€™ button. The band of twisted silks on which an isolated crest is usually (not always) depicted is called a ā€˜torseā€™. With some enhancement, I can see the letters ā€˜NDā€™ at about 8 oā€™clock followed by a word that looks like it ends ā€˜RNERā€™ and then ā€˜SN somethingā€™ beginning at around 1 oā€™clock. I wonder if it might be Hammond Turner & Sons (with ā€˜sonsā€™ abbreviated to ā€˜SNSā€™). They were noted for making fine sporting buttons in Birmingham between c.1840-c.1850.

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